ahoda @ 21/4/2016 19:59

Dadd @ 21/4/2016 20:10 Chris actually has a point... No he doesnt. Cult is a threat to the town.

If cult can't recruit or kill how is it a threat?

Mercator @ 21/4/2016 20:12

ahoda @ 21/4/2016 15:45 What do you want to Know? Everything

Remind me tomorrow. Not doing it on my phone. Too much of a pain in the ass.

Chris25 @ 21/4/2016 21:02

ahoda @ 21/4/2016 19:59 Dadd @ 21/4/2016 20:10 Chris actually has a point... No he doesnt. Cult is a threat to the town. If cult can't recruit or kill how is it a threat?

Because they are third party anti town. It's not hard to figure this out. You're just butt hurt you lost and was completely worhess townie.

Chris25 @ 21/4/2016 18:02

ahoda @ 21/4/2016 19:59 Dadd @ 21/4/2016 20:10 Chris actually has a point... No he doesnt. Cult is a threat to the town. If cult can't recruit or kill how is it a threat?

Threats = other word for scum
Cult = scum

Not all scum were killed -> town didn't win

Cult wins when everyone left is cult (or it is inevitable), everyone left wasn't cult and it wasn't inevitable -> cult didn't win

IMO it's a stalemate, no one won.

ahoda @ 21/4/2016 20:03

Chris25 @ 21/4/2016 21:02 ahoda @ 21/4/2016 19:59 Dadd @ 21/4/2016 20:10 Chris actually has a point... No he doesnt. Cult is a threat to the town. If cult can't recruit or kill how is it a threat? Because they are third party anti town. It's not hard to figure this out. You're just butt hurt you lost and was completely worhess townie.

And you're just butthurt that you were a completely worthless host. Just because cult is anti-town does not mean they are a THREAT to town. Cult could not recruit and could not kill.

READ THE WORDS IN THE FUCKING ROLES YOU SENT OUT.


I did everything to win that my win condition said I needed to.



Like I said, either there's some unmitigated bias towards the GHBers and that's the reason that Jay won or it was complete fucking incompetence on your part.

I do think it's a pretty grey area tbh

Mafia/SK wins when the numbers are even because they can kill every night, so basically you're ending the game because it's a foregone conclusion. The cult has no such killing ability, only lynches, and obviously at 1v1 it's a stalemate

BUT I do think it's similar to the case where there's 1 Mafioso and 1 Town BP left, the win goes to the mafia even though neither can technically kill each other through normal means. So I do think it was the right call. It's what I would've went with anyway

Mercator @ 21/4/2016 20:07

Chris25 @ 21/4/2016 18:02 ahoda @ 21/4/2016 19:59 Dadd @ 21/4/2016 20:10 Chris actually has a point... No he doesnt. Cult is a threat to the town. If cult can't recruit or kill how is it a threat? Threats = other word for scum Cult = scum Not all scum were killed -> town didn't win Cult wins when everyone left is cult (or it is inevitable), everyone left wasn't cult and it wasn't inevitable -> cult didn't win IMO it's a stalemate, no one won.

According to the WORDS in the roles that were sent out, I win when all threats to the town are eliminated. Jay was not a threat to me. I SHOULDVE WON

Chris25 @ 21/4/2016 20:16

Mercator @ 21/4/2016 20:07 Chris25 @ 21/4/2016 18:02 ahoda @ 21/4/2016 19:59 Dadd @ 21/4/2016 20:10 Chris actually has a point... No he doesnt. Cult is a threat to the town. If cult can't recruit or kill how is it a threat? Threats = other word for scum Cult = scum Not all scum were killed -> town didn't win Cult wins when everyone left is cult (or it is inevitable), everyone left wasn't cult and it wasn't inevitable -> cult didn't win IMO it's a stalemate, no one won. According to the WORDS in the roles that were sent out, I win when all threats to the town are eliminated. Jay was not a threat to me. I SHOULDVE WON

Hey Brian, this guy needs some cookies or something.

I think it should've continued until one of the two forgot to lynch the other. 24 hour days, 24 hour nights. Jay vs. Chris. Who will miss a lynch first. AS LONG AS IT TAKES

Boc @ 21/4/2016 20:15

I do think it's a pretty grey area tbh Mafia/SK wins when the numbers are even because they can kill every night, so basically you're ending the game because it's a foregone conclusion. The cult has no such killing ability, only lynches, and obviously at 1v1 it's a stalemate BUT I do think it's similar to the case where there's 1 Mafioso and 1 Town BP left, the win goes to the mafia even though neither can technically kill each other through normal means. So I do think it was the right call. It's what I would've went with anyway

Well then if thats the case, you would just ignore what is written into the roles and just go with whatever you felt like at the time?

Boc @ 21/4/2016 18:15

I do think it's a pretty grey area tbh Mafia/SK wins when the numbers are even because they can kill every night, so basically you're ending the game because it's a foregone conclusion. The cult has no such killing ability, only lynches, and obviously at 1v1 it's a stalemate BUT I do think it's similar to the case where there's 1 Mafioso and 1 Town BP left, the win goes to the mafia. So I do think it was the right call. It's what I would've went with anyway

Why does it go to the mafioso?

"When designing the game, the Moderator should always consider what will happen there is no obvious winner. For example if:
A position is reached where nobody can kill anybody else (for example, if the last two players alive are a Bulletproof Townie and a Mafia Goon).
Everyone is dead (this can happen in a game with multiple killing roles).
There is no "right" answer as to what happens in such situations - it is up to the Mod. These situations may result in a draw, or a win for a particular faction. But the Mod should anticipate such possibilities and define the player's win conditions accordingly. [For example, it is quite common for a Serial Killer to have the following win condition: "You win if everyone else is dead, even if you are not yourself alive."]"

So boc is also a worthless MOD. Lol

Chris25 @ 21/4/2016 21:16

Mercator @ 21/4/2016 20:07 Chris25 @ 21/4/2016 18:02 ahoda @ 21/4/2016 19:59 Dadd @ 21/4/2016 20:10 Chris actually has a point... No he doesnt. Cult is a threat to the town. If cult can't recruit or kill how is it a threat? Threats = other word for scum Cult = scum Not all scum were killed -> town didn't win Cult wins when everyone left is cult (or it is inevitable), everyone left wasn't cult and it wasn't inevitable -> cult didn't win IMO it's a stalemate, no one won. According to the WORDS in the roles that were sent out, I win when all threats to the town are eliminated. Jay was not a threat to me. I SHOULDVE WON

Did the town eliminate the cult? No.... OK you lose.

Chris25 @ 21/4/2016 20:18

Boc @ 21/4/2016 20:15 I do think it's a pretty grey area tbh Mafia/SK wins when the numbers are even because they can kill every night, so basically you're ending the game because it's a foregone conclusion. The cult has no such killing ability, only lynches, and obviously at 1v1 it's a stalemate BUT I do think it's similar to the case where there's 1 Mafioso and 1 Town BP left, the win goes to the mafia even though neither can technically kill each other through normal means. So I do think it was the right call. It's what I would've went with anyway Well then if thats the case, you would just ignore what is written into the roles and just go with whatever you felt like at the time?

nah, cult=scum=threat to the town. That's how it's always been defined. Anything that's not town is scum

and yeah Merc, it's up to mod's discretion, thus why it's a grey area. But I can't remember it ever being decided differently here (not that that scenario's common at all)

Boc @ 21/4/2016 18:22

Chris25 @ 21/4/2016 20:18 Boc @ 21/4/2016 20:15 I do think it's a pretty grey area tbh Mafia/SK wins when the numbers are even because they can kill every night, so basically you're ending the game because it's a foregone conclusion. The cult has no such killing ability, only lynches, and obviously at 1v1 it's a stalemate BUT I do think it's similar to the case where there's 1 Mafioso and 1 Town BP left, the win goes to the mafia even though neither can technically kill each other through normal means. So I do think it was the right call. It's what I would've went with anyway Well then if thats the case, you would just ignore what is written into the roles and just go with whatever you felt like at the time? nah, cult=scum=threat to the town. That's how it's always been defined. Anything that's not town is scum and yeah Merc, it's up to mod's discretion, thus why it's a grey area. But I can't remember it ever being decided differently here (not that that scenario's common at all)

I don't remember a game where this happened.