And two, is not several, just saying, and we didnt' know Tricks's votes counted as two at first.

So now we need to use meta and just ignore this game to figure out your allegiance?

Angi @ 18/6/2015 22:06

And two, is not several, just saying, and we didnt' know Tricks's votes counted as two at first.

He literally posted that it did before you voted. Not to mention all the vote counts where he had 2 votes.

I see what you are saying about the scared to lynch an inactive thing. I'll clarify: it's my original point. You downplayed that wagon (and thus your vote in it) twice. That indicates that you were scared about catching heat from your vote, right from the start. What I meant is that if you're town you shouldn't be worried about catching heat for voting DD in that situation.

Angi @ 18/6/2015 22:04

If I were scum, Buffy and Christian would be dead right now.

oh really?

No need to go back to all games when I've brought it up here a few times already

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Isnt this where someone comes in and says they don't like the "sudden" train on so and so and try to derail it?

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Some people think four votes in a row on one person is a sudden train even if it's 20 hours into the day lol

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Honestly though, when it's almost the end of the 24 hours and a train FINALLY picks up, it irritates me when someone comes running in and says it was quick Tongue I've seen quicker.

Timmah @ 18/6/2015 23:08

Angi @ 18/6/2015 22:06 And two, is not several, just saying, and we didnt' know Tricks's votes counted as two at first. He literally posted that it did before you voted. Not to mention all the vote counts where he had 2 votes.

Oh I get it, no on e is allowed to make posts and be reading unless they've read everything up to date. Noted ;) Good night Timmah, have a good one. Lynch me and find out the hard way that I'm not mafia.

Buffy @ 18/6/2015 22:50

Colby @ 18/6/2015 21:31 Hi all, I want to apologize for my inactivity yesterday. I had some irl stuff going on and I really just didn't feel like dealing with the game that day, but I'm back on track now. I don't know what to make of Tricks and Herm dying today, but what I do know is that something is off about the dream stuff that was discussed yesterday. It doesn't make sense to me that Moose proclaims Sami to be trustworthy and Merc to be town, and that Buffy goes on to say Cake is untrustworthy (while silenced) and proclaims that Brian told her Merc was town. Moose and Buffy are being affected by the same thing but it sounds like they were both told Merc is town in a different way. If players are going to be told another player is town, especially under these circumstances, then I believe it would be done in a uniform manner. My other opinion on yesterday is that mafia has us running in circles. I wouldn't be surprised if this dream stuff is some sort of fabrication done by the mafia to throw us off and prevent us from being able to draw proper conclusions leading us to a lynch. We got lucky with DD yesterday, but town was so confused yesterday there were no lynch trains going until the end of the day. Like Cherry, I want Buffy to clarify on her post from yesterday because I have a hard FOS on her right now, with Moose and Merc close behind. (I believe the dream stuff is a total fabrication) Wow, I'm so popular! I already answered Cherry's question but maybe you didn't see it yet. I was informed Merc was town and asked Brian if he could confirm and he said yes. I was given a message that Cake was mafia and not to trust him. It was specifically stated as a pep talk. These are two specific things because one was confirmed as fact to me and one was stated as someone else sending me a message. Why would I make it up? I even said I guessed it was to frame Cake and I don't think Cake is mafia. I specifically said I would lean toward it being a frame job.

Yup, two separate things. I was just interested because it was disappointing to see Alsark knocked off before he vocalized all of his thoughts.

BadgerMcBeaver @ 18/6/2015 21:59

Just want to clarify Moose that you are 100% sure that the 'chaotic' group that you were referring was specifically a Mafia and not potentially something else? There's got to be a cult out there somewhere and it strikes me as really bizarre that there would be both a 'random' mafia and a 'chaotic' mafia because that seems like basically the same thing to me. I don't understand why people are worrying about quick lynch trains when the lynched person actually ended up being a mafia member (and it looks like their leader, based on his role?). Is there something I am missing here?

Badger seems to be really downplaying anything having to do with a chaotic mafia. Could be aligned with Angi. Yet to be determined but worth noting for future reference as we get more info.

Timmah @ 18/6/2015 23:12

I see what you are saying about the scared to lynch an inactive thing. I'll clarify: it's my original point. You downplayed that wagon (and thus your vote in it) twice. That indicates that you were scared about catching heat from your vote, right from the start. What I meant is that if you're town you shouldn't be worried about catching heat for voting DD in that situation.

I've never been scared about catching heat about a vote lol

Christian @ 18/6/2015 23:12

Angi @ 18/6/2015 22:04 If I were scum, Buffy and Christian would be dead right now. oh really?

I guess you didn't catch my soft claim yesterday lol

Night Angi, I hope you have a great night as well! :)

As for the lynching, maybe I'll push for yours. I'm not in a hurry though and there are a lot of people I'd like to hear from first

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Angi @ 18/6/2015 22:04

I guess you didn't catch my soft claim yesterday lol

Oh I caught it. Kind of why I'm leaning towards you being one of the good guys, along with the DD vote yesterday. Though I can see where Timmah is coming from.

So I just want to keep things straight here but if we are listing the information we have about potential factions, we have:

Town: Confirmed dead members are: Tony, Schrauben, Rob, Chris, Alsark, Tricks, Herm. Only confirmed living member is Cherry. Potential confirmation of Merc (according to Buffy and Moose).

Randomizers: Confirmed Mafia by Brian. Dead members include DD, Craig/Zersch.

Stabilizers: Confirmed third party of some kind by Brian. I think it's pretty unlikely that they would be Cult because there were so many of them right off the bat. I'm thinking they could be the Masons? Confirmed members are: Im317, Vern, Korr.

Chaotic: Potential mafia, the info about their existence comes from Moose. Assuming it does exist, is it possible that Ari comes from this faction? It would kinda fit since we don't know anything about it except for what Moose told us, and Ari's role was kept hidden from us.

Children: Not 100% a given that this is a faction, but there are a few players who have the passive that they cannot be visited by Children. I can't imagine more than two mafias so this would have to be a third party? Possibly the cult?

Is there anything I'm missing here?

Zersch/Craig was a child, and part of the Random Mafia.

Angi @ 18/6/2015 22:04

Timmah @ 18/6/2015 23:00 Getting touchy about it now? All I did was mention that moose's info had me thinking about the lynch and you were the one that had to come in and downplay it. Again. Of course anyone who argues a point must be getting touchy, or defensive as Buffy gets every game because why shouldnt' we argue our innocence. You flat out called me suspicious for saying the same thing I say EVERY GAME, and then you flat out said it made me look worse voting for Shawn now. So this "all I did was mention" is where you're wrong. I really don't care how it's looking for me, I'm 100% not mafia, so you can waste time lynching me, or you can hunt for scum ;) If I were scum, Buffy and Christian would be dead right now.

Hmmmm. First of all, Angi. No one called me defensive. Stop trying to drag me into your defense. :P

Second, anyone that says "if I were scum so and so would be dead" doesn't sit right with me. It's a weak argument that anyone could use but doesn't really carry any weight. If you are scum you could have many reasons for killing people.