Vic @ 20/1/2015 18:33

Lamps you're all over the place buddy!

Explain. I have one main suspect that no one will lynch now as long as i'm in the game and looking back your softclaim remains all kinds of fishy.

Here's an updated color coded list of the roles potentially still in the game. And to Wikey's point about capping each faction at 3 or whatever he was talking about, remember this game could be very unbalanced in terms of the faction sizes, since the roles were dealt randomly.

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Vanilla Townie - discarded by Moose Vanilla Townie - discarded by JJ Vanilla Townie - discarded by Tony Vanilla Townie - discarded by Kat Vanilla Townie - MOOSE Vanilla Townie Vanilla Townie Vanilla Townie Vanilla Townie Vanilla Townie Vanilla Townie Vanilla Townie Watcher - BOC Tracker Tracker Deputy - discarded by Rose Cop - SHADOW Cop Lover - discarded by Greenday Seer - ROB Seer FBI Agent - ANGI Doctor Doctor Roleblocker Jailkeeper - discarded by Nofo Bodyguard Vigilante One-shot Vigilante One-shot Dayvig One-shot Dayvig Compulsive Childkiller Bulletproof Townie Supersaint One-shot Paranoid Gun Owner Mason Mason Mason Mason Mason Doctor Mason Lover Lover - discarded by Herm Lover - discarded by DD Lover Jack-of-all-trades Vengeful Townie Retired Werewolf Hunter Retired Marine Miller Hirsute Townie Evangelistic Townie Tentacled Townie Watchlisted Townie - discarded by Vic Universal Miller - discarded by Shadow Black Goo - KAT Ascetic Townie - discarded by Schrauben Private Investigator - JJ Gravedigger Nymphomaniac One-shot Governor - discarded by Dylan One-shot Unlynchable Townie Town Godfather Innocent Child - discarded by Boc Hider - TRICKS Enabler - discarded by Tricks Treestump Conspiracy Theorist - discarded by Christian Conspiracy Theorist Conspiracy Theorist One-shot Kingmaker - discarded by Jeff Weak Jailkeeper Bloodhound Vanilla Cop Hero - discarded by Curtis Tourist - discarded by Wikey Nurse - discarded by Patrick One-shot Commuter - discarded by Lamps Cop-of-all-Trades One-shot Gladiator - discarded by Chris Lynchbait Psychiatrist Judas - KIWI Saulus Underdog Mafia Goon - discarded by Ari Mafia Goon - discarded by Angi Mafia Goon Mafia Goon Mafia Goon Mafia Godfather Mafia Tracker - discarded by Samm Mafia Doctor - discarded by Brian Mafia Roleblocker Mafia Lover Mafia Seer Mafia One-shot Dayvig Mafia One-shot Governor Mafia Strongman Mafia Reflexive Doctor Hirsute Goon - discarded by Kiwi Mafia Cupid Alpha Goon Mafia Compulsive Hider Werewolf - discarded by Ahoda Werewolf Werewolf Werewolf Alpha Werewolf Werewolf Roleblocker Werewolf One-shot Bulletproof - discarded by Rob Werewolf Cop Werewolf Mason Werewolf Watcher Werewolf FBI Agent Ninja Werewolf Werewolf One-shot PGO Werewolf Miller Werewolf Supersaint - discarded by Matt Werewolf Godfather Werewolf Gravedigger Alien One-shot Unlynchable - KORR Alien Prober Alien Vanillaiser Alien Silencer - HERM Bulletproof Alien Lover Alien Psychotrooper - TONY Alien Mass Redirector - discarded by Paul Alien Bloodsucker - discarded by Korr Alien Sympathiser Survivor Compulsive Bodyguard Survivor - discarded by Jamie Survivor Mason - BRIAN Lyncher Lyncher Serial Killer Serial Killer Serial Killer Serial Killer One-shot Cult Recruiter Cult One-shot Goomaker

As far as my top 3 scum guesses, I'd say in no particular order:

Rose and DD, for their lack of participation/hiding in the shadows.

It's very likely that scum isn't saying much because the Townies who are trying are attacking each other during the day.

and Vic. I have no proof, it's just a feeling.

I will be watching this Wikey/Lamps thing as it develops though.

Sorry folks, kids basketball consumed my whole weekend and meetings are kicking my ass today. I'm trying to get caught up on Day 3 and then have to follow up through day 4. Which I will be able to do this afternoon or evening.

Lamps @ 20/1/2015 12:36

Vic @ 20/1/2015 18:33 Lamps you're all over the place buddy! Explain. I have one main suspect that no one will lynch now as long as i'm in the game and looking back your softclaim remains all kinds of fishy.

Your reasonings are silly.

Why the hell would I softclaim if I was the mafia version of the role? Do you think I'm stupid? :(

This Me/Lamps feud is a waste of time and is derailing any actual discussion we could be having.

I get the idea that the nature of this game opens up the possibility that there might not be Mafia or Werewolves, but look at that list Christian posted.

There was only 9 alien roles up for grabs and so far we have seen 3 of them come into play. There is near four times as many Mafia/Werewolf roles listed. Can anybody seriously believe we aren't dealing with at least a few of each?

Why is everyone shit this game?

Including me.

I'll be open minded. So Lamps, I think I'm going to need you to explain why you think Wikey is Werewolf and Vic is mafia.

There are 20 of us left. Nobody's flipped Mafia or Werewolf yet. If anything, I'd assume one or both of those factions have small numbers. But they're all scum, so they all need to go.

And if we assume that the three kills each night are from Mafia, Werewolf and one Third Party, then we're only dealing with one Vig or SK?

Vic @ 20/1/2015 19:03

Lamps @ 20/1/2015 12:36 Vic @ 20/1/2015 18:33 Lamps you're all over the place buddy! Explain. I have one main suspect that no one will lynch now as long as i'm in the game and looking back your softclaim remains all kinds of fishy. Your reasonings are silly. Why the hell would I softclaim if I was the mafia version of the role? Do you think I'm stupid? :(

You got heat from several people and felt the need to drop something to scare Nofo or whoever. Your last two questions confirm it for me.

ahoda @ 20/1/2015 11:58

Nobert @ 20/1/2015 12:29 I'm suspicious of Ahoda, Paulus and Wikey smooches

lel I'm still curious as to why you think I'm scum

PORL @ 20/1/2015 13:23

ahoda @ 20/1/2015 12:57 PORL @ 20/1/2015 8:59 Do we even know there's mafia in the game? Nobody has flipped a mafia hunter role nor anybody flipped any mafia alignments, insofar as I can see. Might be there's just one werewolf and a ton of aliens. Might be there's no werewolves and the seer role still "worked" anyway. Honestly the remaining player list might be all town and one single alien. This game is a clusterfuck. It's extremely difficult to form any role based decisions at all. Yes there are mafia. Based on what? I've not come across anything but I haven't fully caught up. Lamps @ 20/1/2015 12:43 If y'all are gonna hold back on a wikey lynch bcuz u think I'm lyncher then I will gladly unlynch or you can kill me first idc (vic, plz?) and then lynch him? Idk how many werewolves are out there but the sooner their numbers are cut the sooner they're gone. This is a very strange post. I'm starting to believe the lyncher theory but I'm not interested in chasing it up right now because it's not worth it. Too much risk involved for very little reward. A lyncher is only a threat if the target is being lynched. I'm holding back on the wikey lynch not based on this, but because his claim of mason is extremely bold to make if he's lying. There are a lot of potential mason roles and likelihood that at least one other is in the game. It might not be, but it's still an extremely bold claim. He was being lynched so maybe felt it was needed, but I don't know. I'm not sold.

There's mafia base on my role, or KC gave me a pointless roll even more pointless.

Lamps is convinced

Christian @ 20/1/2015 19:11

I'll be open minded. So Lamps, I think I'm going to need you to explain why you think Wikey is Werewolf and Vic is mafia.

Wikey's day 1 posts first of all, he made some filler comment about those discarding town being more likely to be scum or something. I think scum would say stuff like that. Then his defense was very weak, it basically came down to, "I barely posted shit, how I get this much heat". His claim is believable, but there is a werewolf mason among the cards. I don't care about odds personally, I just find Wikey very suspicious so I'll keep lynching him.

Vic softclaimed D2 when he got heat. He said he'd use his role on Nofo, most likely to scare him. That can be a town-vig strategy, but see what's happening? I question him and his defense probably speaks for itself. If he were really 1shot townvig, don't you think he would have been taken out already? I mean, I see no harm in questioning him about it at all because everyone saw what he posted day 2 - and I'll probably get killed by him if I continue my crusade but that's fine lol. It'll just prove that he's mafia aligned.

It's just theories, no evidence, and it's thin. I find this game quite frustrating so idk I'm probably tunneling lol I won't deny that.

Vic @ 20/1/2015 19:32

Lamps is convinced

Okay.

##unlynch
##lynch Vic

U gon shoot me?

Nobert @ 20/1/2015 14:20

ahoda @ 20/1/2015 11:58 Nobert @ 20/1/2015 12:29 I'm suspicious of Ahoda, Paulus and Wikey smooches lel I'm still curious as to why you think I'm scum

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