Ari @ 24/12/2014 7:40

Tom Brady @ 24/12/2014 11:23 Just catching up guys. But for now. ##Lynch Vernon Can you even lynch? I have a lingering feeling that Lamps is the godfather.

Silly me. No, I cannot lynch.

Ok, big post coming now!

Oh, looking forward to it.

Hi Kat, are you scum or town?

Sorry for barely contributing but I sometimes forget to check this site and I also find it hard to contribute lols

@herm

I'm town but useless now since I already used my items lol To explain the third kill in Day 1, I gave Shadow a gun. Then it was Day 3? where I gave Lamps a vest. I was about to give it to Shadow and wish I did since he ended up killed and flipped town.

I prob revealed too much but oh well

It's hard for me to form an opinion on Animal just from the standpoint that I don't have the experience to tell if ALLLLLL that shit he's saying is valid or if its just a mass confusion campaign.

Greenday seems to be acting a little shaky but he's always paranoid as fuck so I'm not exactly sold on that either.

I really do still think that Vernon is scum and I don't want people to think I'm just saying that because he already voted to lynch me. He's been erratic as fuck and I would think he's played enough of these games to know how to act by now, but i could be wrong as he's a grown ass adult and still doesnt know how to act in public.

I still have suspicions about Brian as well mostly just from his absence there for a couple days.

I'm going to hold off on a lynch vote and see how the day develops.

So I reckon we are dealing with roughly 7 - 8 Mafia, plus a third party.

Scum:

Moose – Mafia Goon (Lynched) – Lynched DR Day 1, randomly said she might be scum.
Aries – Randy Bailey (Killed)
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Third Party:

Curtis – Cult Leader (Killed)
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So that is roughly 7 more scum to oust, out of the following:

Cash Money – Innocent Child
Wikey - Tree Stump
Drr – Soft claimed
Herm - Cleared by DR
itsbrianyay - Claimed
Animal
Ari
Chris
Christian
DD
Greenday
JJ
Kat
Kiwi
Lamps
Patrick
Samm
Tony
Tricks
Vernon

Anyways, I have been reading back on the past few days and a lot of stuff struck out at me. But before I start naming my suspects, I would just like to bring up a post from Cuhraig, which I am pretty sure got him killed:

Cuhraig

Ahhhh yes at Aries dieing. Nofo called him out on it yesterday, and I'm surprised someone acted on it last night. Unless of course no one really acted on it, and it was instead some sort of mystical nonsense that went down. Guesstimation is that a vig killed Aries, but that's just a guesstimation.

Cuhraig pretty much spilt the beans here, letting everyone observant enough that he was the Vig. The Mafia definitely saw this and acted on it. Worth keeping in mind.

Anyways, here are my suspects, in no particular order:

1. Ari. He seems to be doing everything he can to derail actual discussion. He has consistently ignored major suspects in favour of inactives. On day 2 he tried to lynch DD, providing no actual reasoning. He claimed he wanted to get rid of useless players who weren't contributing, which struck me as an odd thing to say so early in the game. How often are the first days of a game productive? Very rarely.

On day 3, he said "Moose is getting scummier by the minute" even though he voiced zero suspicion of her on day 2, and in the end he ended up trying to start a lynch on Brian. Again, opting for inactives. I'd like to hear who his suspects are.

2. Kat. Ok, first of all, I am an idiot. When I tried to bait scum to join the Cuhraig lynch on day 2 before I activated my role, I mixed up Kimmy and Kat.

Kat joined my lynch on Craig, NOT Kimmy. It was a stupid oversight on my part.

Here is the one post Kat made on day 2.

Kat

This is fun. I didn't pay much attention to the Day 1 thread but I am not a fan of someone that jumps from vote to vote. I'm gonna go with the Craig vote too ##Lynch Cuhraig

I would like to put this down to inexperience, but it is super suspicious that she joined the lynch, as it was when Moose did. If she was thinking critically, she wouldn't have joined the vote in the first place and called me out on my bullshit. However, I have to admit she at least gave a reason, claiming it was related to his voting patterns on day 1.

I am also aware she has claimed or is in the process of claiming at the moment. I would very much like to hear from her.

3. Vernon. He is pretty much displaying all of his usual characteristics when he draws scum. I don't think I need to say much more about him.

I think we should be looking at one of these three today.

Kat @ 24/12/2014 8:30

I prob revealed too much but oh well

No, you haven't revealed enough.

Please continue!

If you used all your items, there is no harm coming clean about everything imo.

Kat @ 24/12/2014 13:30

Sorry for barely contributing but I sometimes forget to check this site and I also find it hard to contribute lols @herm I'm town but useless now since I already used my items lol To explain the third kill in Day 1, I gave Shadow a gun. Then it was Day 3? where I gave Lamps a vest. I was about to give it to Shadow and wish I did since he ended up killed and flipped town.

Are you saying Shadow killed someone night 1 or perhaps Angi?

Actually my theory about Lamps being the don kinda rely on a few host decisions regarding gameplay which Vic probably wont elaborate on.

Kat giving Lamps a vest (bulletproof i presume?) kinda makes it harder to really know if he is the don if he is attacked.

Anyways this kinda proves Kat to be town.

Wikey you also missed that Tricks vouched for DR, which I dont think scum would do so I presume them both to be town.

Which leaves:
Animal
Ari
Chris
Christian
DD
Greenday
JJ
Kiwi
Lamps
Patrick
Samm
Tony
Vernon

From your list.

The Moose vs Kimmy thing on day 3 is really making this hard. It just seemed so close considering only 1 mafia had died at that point. It seems like the mafia wasnt much involved in that decision, seeing how Moose had the highest amount of votes for some time and barely got saved at the end with the claim. There doesnt seem to be much defending and misdirection. Hmmmmm

Kinda makes be believe the mafia are taking a back seat and seeing to it that we destroy ourselves.

Ari, could you elaborate on that godfather theory? I missed it at first when reading on my phone. How does Vic/gameplay come in?

can anybody confirm that they WEREN'T blocked last night? it'd be really helpful to know if it was a blanket thing or not.

itsbrianyay @ 24/12/2014 10:43

can anybody confirm that they WEREN'T blocked last night? it'd be really helpful to know if it was a blanket thing or not.

I'd rather we not out town roles when our doctor is dead.

What if we cross reference the possible scum on the Day 4 Moose train with the possible scum on the Day 3 Kimmy train?

Day 3
*kimmy (5/13) - Moose, dr, Animal, Vernon, Patrick, Buffy, Tony, Chris

Day 4
Moose (11/11) - Rose, Buffy, Kiwi, Animal, Christian, Kat, Tony, Tricks, Vernon, Chris, Moose

Let's knock Moose off the lists.

That leaves Vernon, Tony and Chris on both of these trains. Could be one of these people wanted to try to save Moose on Day 3, and then on Day 4 realized Moose was too far gone to be saved, and jumped on her train to make themselves look good when she flipped mafia.

Animal was on Kimmy's but unlynched to join Tony's train but the day ended as he was about to jump on. At least that's what he's told us. If that is true, then either Animal or Tony is scum, or they're both Town. Animal unlynching from kimmy whether he was going to lynch Tony or not, put Tony at risk because he had 3 votes at the time. So I don't know about Animal. It's the scumminess of his posts that I can't shake, but I'm willing to go a different route today.

I will believe Kat's claim for now, only because she offered the information without being pressured and it seems like a Town role, but it's kind of convenient that she gave a gun to Shadow and claimed that he's responsible for one of the deaths, when he's not here to confirm. If Shadow had been given a gun, do you think he'd have shared that information with us? That could have been helpful to know. Just playing devil's advocate, trying to look at all sides of the equation. And if Lamps and Kat are in league with each other, then Lamps could easily confirm that he received a vest. And now that Kat's role is done, we may not question why she'll be surviving each night.

Although if Shadow did kill someone on Night 1, it'd have been either Nofo, Curtis, or Aries and I could see him choosing to take out 2 of the 3 of them. :P