Rob Zombie @ 20/10/2013 2:33

Boc @ 19/10/2013 22:13 Though I also think Jen/Pat/Ari are all worth looking at. That counter-train seemed pretty sketchy. I'm just not sure that the mafia would want to stick their necks out so obviously like that on D1 In terms of counter train I'm more suspicious of Jen than I am Patrick and Ari. In her case I'd see it as an inexperienced mistake, which is something a mafia member could/would theoretically do, whereas Pat and Ari should definitely know better than to do that kind of thing if they're scum. Still, there's always the possibility that one or both of them are taking the "hiding in plain sight" tactic, where you're so obviously mafia that you can't possibly be mafia. I dunno. Maybe I'm overthinking it.

lol Ari can't even be brought into the counter train conversation in that way because he wasn't apart of the counter train...he was just the target of the other train

Eh, I guess that's what I get for skimming. Still, if we've got questionable counter-trains forming to save him, it's still pretty suspicious.

I don't see ff lying about his roleclaim. If he were, we'd find out at the end of today and lynch him tomorrow anyway.

Also, Nofo was acting a little weird yesterday, and couldn't get his story straight today.

##Lynch Nofo

Don't like the Nofo lynch. Proclaiming you want a no lynch on day 1 is hardly a smart move if you're scum. Seems too obvious to me. However, Niney dying was certainly due to a failed recruitment, so for any vig claim to stand up, one of the following must be true:

1: There is no SK in this game
2: Either the SK or Mafia didn't kill last night.

SK has to kill every night as far as I know, so unless there is an optional SK role (unlikely), then the only possibility remaining is that Nofo is a vig and the mafia didn't kill last night, or Nofo is the GF.

I would much rather hear from him first before lynching.

Oh, and in case Nofo really pushes hard with this vig claim and it happens not to be true, the real vig should NOT come forward if he is out there.

Erm...also, we shouldn't forget that shit with Ari yesterday. Whilst I didn't agree with the lynch, what happened when it gathered steam with the tying bullshit was quite interesting. Patrick, Jen, and admittedly myself all jumped on that train quite quickly.

However, Ari only had two votes on him before that charade started. If his potential scum buddies were trying to protect him, it was probably a little unnecessary. I dunno, it is conceivable that the votes were threw on Vic in a panic for the end of the day approaching. It was all fairly towards the end. I still wouldn't be entirely against an Ari lynch if we can't reach a consensus on Nofo.

I'm not against an Ari lynch either, but the case is weak compared to Nofo. I still think the Ari and Vic trains MAY have been day one boolshit. It's hard to tell. But ff roleclaiming regarding Nofo seems a much tighter case imo.

I'm not even a visiting role. I have a passive which oz entirely why I was purposely acting scummy. I'm not going to role claim but after seeing old games it seemed the best course of action to avoid being killed.

Actually, I don't care. I'm town bullet proof. I didn't want to give mafia any time to target me with their kill and out me. I've also seen what they do when they figure it out.... idiots.

inb4: GF IS BP TOO GET HIM
Do you really think I would make the mistakes I made and not immediately cover it up if I was in a mafia chat?

Sorry been mia but I will catch up w/ everything in the afternoon.

Tom Brady @ 20/10/2013 9:45

so for any vig claim to stand up, one of the following must be true: 1: There is no SK in this game 2: Either the SK or Mafia didn't kill last night. SK has to kill every night as far as I know, so unless there is an optional SK role (unlikely), then the only possibility remaining is that Nofo is a vig and the mafia didn't kill last night, or Nofo is the GF.

There's still a mafia roleblocker out there, right? They could have blocked the SK or vig last night

Curtis (1) henry
Ari (1) Curtis
Jen (0) Pat
Nofo (2) Paul, Roos

I don't know what to think about this Nofo business

Nofo @ 20/10/2013 10:56

Actually, I don't care. I'm town bullet proof. I didn't want to give mafia any time to target me with their kill and out me. I've also seen what they do when they figure it out.... idiots.

Oh boy!

Very interesting what FF said and this claim is right out of the textbook

Ari @ 20/10/2013 8:01

Nofo @ 20/10/2013 10:56 Actually, I don't care. I'm town bullet proof. I didn't want to give mafia any time to target me with their kill and out me. I've also seen what they do when they figure it out.... idiots. Oh boy! Very interesting what FF said and this claim is right out of the textbook

I'd like to point out how bizarre this statement is with no elaboration or explanation for how it's cliche.