Cody @ 19/10/2023 12:09

Hi! I was busy but also purposefully seeing if ToB said anything. Him saying nothing at all makes me even more sus. Feels like scum is trying to sus out what I might know before doing or saying anything. What I’ll say is I’m 100% confident I’ve been redirected to some degree. And I’ve visited TiB both nights so far. I know that doesn’t mean TiB is confirmed scum necessarily but I wanted to come in HAWT with pressure

TiB was active on the board after your post accusing him, so it’s fair to wonder why he hasn’t said anything

Penner @ 19/10/2023 11:11

Spin @ 19/10/2023 11:57 Penner @ 19/10/2023 10:21 But it’s ironic because Spin has repeatedly mentioned in prior games that lynching people purely for being inactive after D1 isn’t a good move and then he went and led the charge on KC. So I currently expect Spin and Sami to be scum buddies. Cody could be mafia with them, and if not, TiB could be mafia or SK. I think Penner is just upset that his bandwagon wasn't as successful as my supposed bandwagon was. It’s easier for a D2 bandwagon to save a scummate to form so I’m not jealous at all

So, your saying that I organized my entire scum team to jump on in the last 7 minutes of the day to lynch an inactive who ended up being the ever important VT?

Did you not see exactly how that went when they tried that last game? It got the mafia smoked with a daykill and a lynching in the same day. I'd really hope you don't think I'm dumb enough to try something like that again, especially this early.

I swapped my vote from Cody to KC, when it was evident the Cody train wasn't going anywhere. It was then almost 10 minutes and like 20-30 posts before anyone else voted KC, so my bandwagoning must not have been that effective.

You’ve told me multiple times in the past that we can’t just lynch an inactive after D1 because we actually have info. You then decided to go against that advice by voting KC. So to me it seems like you were attempting to protect Sami. You’re free to prove me wrong with your actions going forward.

Penner @ 19/10/2023 11:20

You’ve told me multiple times in the past that we can’t just lynch an inactive after D1 because we actually have info. You then decided to go against that advice by voting KC. So to me it seems like you were attempting to protect Sami. You’re free to prove me wrong with your actions going forward.

What actual info did we have? Sami claimed VT. im317 said lynch me or don't, it's probably bad. What other info was so important that I'm scum for "ignoring" it?

And on the protecting Sami front, I was the leader of the Cody bandwagon prior to swapping at the end of the day, the only real counter-train to Sami at the time. If I was trying to protect Sami, wouldn't I have pushed harder to get people to swap to Cody, who had at least 2 more votes than KC when I swapped?

Spin @ 19/10/2023 12:06

im317 @ 19/10/2023 11:03 Curtis @ 19/10/2023 11:50 With a role like that I would hope 1 or 2 of the 4 non voters would be scum that would be nice but is that a risk my subjects can afford to take? The longer you stay alive, the higher the chances that some of those people will have been killed or voted out, so the chance it has a devastating effect on town will diminish as the game goes on.

i mostly agree with this. the issue is the anon vote which will let scum who otherwise might have to vote one way to look good be able to vote a different way. if we had any mafia dead it would be less of an issue.

Cody @ 19/10/2023 12:13

Also. While 317 seems genuine. We should keep in mind Jamie was janitors. And it’s not like this claim can really be tested prior to a lynch or kill.

sure because its not like i have not hinting at it since my second post of the game.

Spin @ 19/10/2023 12:22

Penner @ 19/10/2023 11:20 You’ve told me multiple times in the past that we can’t just lynch an inactive after D1 because we actually have info. You then decided to go against that advice by voting KC. So to me it seems like you were attempting to protect Sami. You’re free to prove me wrong with your actions going forward. What actual info did we have? Sami claimed VT. im317 said lynch me or don't, it's probably bad. What other info was so important that I'm scum for "ignoring" it?

The info that Sami was a mess and a half at the end of D1 and then frankly claiming VT isn’t really a claim at all it’s closer to a cop out that shouldn’t be taken into consideration.

Farlig's flip that had the negative stuff was in hidden text.

Hidden: If Clarke dies before the doctor dies, the doctor will become vanilla

Same for Havo's flip

Hidden: If Octavia dies, Bellamy will become a treestump

So it is interesting that 317's would not be hidden. But I do believe him and can't really think up a reason he'd be saying what he's saying otherwise. Unless he needs to die to meet a win condition or is baiting scum to visit him at night.

Dying to meet a win condition is my worry and when worded like that could be very on brand for the 100 lol. Jester threw me off.

But yeah it doesn't really make sense why he'd make up what he did otherwise.

im317 @ 19/10/2023 9:25

Spin @ 19/10/2023 12:06 im317 @ 19/10/2023 11:03 Curtis @ 19/10/2023 11:50 With a role like that I would hope 1 or 2 of the 4 non voters would be scum that would be nice but is that a risk my subjects can afford to take? The longer you stay alive, the higher the chances that some of those people will have been killed or voted out, so the chance it has a devastating effect on town will diminish as the game goes on. i mostly agree with this. the issue is the anon vote which will let scum who otherwise might have to vote one way to look good be able to vote a different way. if we had any mafia dead it would be less of an issue. Cody @ 19/10/2023 12:13 Also. While 317 seems genuine. We should keep in mind Jamie was janitors. And it’s not like this claim can really be tested prior to a lynch or kill. sure because its not like i have not hinting at it since my second post of the game.

I believe you for now. I was just making sure we don’t forget Jamie was janitored is all

Cody why are you still waiting? I say get your info and we can move this day along

Penner @ 19/10/2023 10:48

Cody why are you still waiting? I say get your info and we can move this day along

I’ve already said. I’ve visited TiB and been redirected. Twice in a row.

Penner @ 19/10/2023 8:09

Also Rodney was clearly anti-Sami at the end of D2 and look where he ended up…

Rodney would be the last person I'd go for for that very reason, JS.

##vote Tib

Could have a scum role that acts like a nexus?

Penner @ 19/10/2023 12:26

Spin @ 19/10/2023 12:22 Penner @ 19/10/2023 11:20 You’ve told me multiple times in the past that we can’t just lynch an inactive after D1 because we actually have info. You then decided to go against that advice by voting KC. So to me it seems like you were attempting to protect Sami. You’re free to prove me wrong with your actions going forward. What actual info did we have? Sami claimed VT. im317 said lynch me or don't, it's probably bad. What other info was so important that I'm scum for "ignoring" it? The info that Sami was a mess and a half at the end of D1 and then frankly claiming VT isn’t really a claim at all it’s closer to a cop out that shouldn’t be taken into consideration.

The entirety of the last 10 minutes of D1 was a mess. Why single out Sami?

And yes, claiming VT is really a non-claim, but this early in the game, if its fake, it's probably going to be discovered eventually. VTs do exist in games, and they are town votes, so even if they are the standard scum fake claim, its something to go off of at that point in the game.

I'm now trying to figure out why I was elevated to the job of Sami's press secretary? I have no idea if she is town or scum. It must be the teacher in me wanting to correct faulty logic when I see it, and Penner is overflowing in terrible logic and reasoning.