JJ @ 10/11/2017 15:45

Nofo @ 10/11/2017 15:43 If I was a hot girl I would totally be an escort. Get paid for going to dinner and not having to sleep with a man? Yes please. I'm pretty sure escorts sleep with the man too. Usually, at least.

Not always! Lots of men just want company.

Mads @ 10/11/2017 11:31

Lol show me the statistic that says rapes are at an all-time low. If there even is a stastistic, this would only include reported rape so that stastistic would be inaccurate anyway.

I ain't gonna Google for you but it's there. But I guess that's the classical definition of rape and not the current one that includes "a guy looked at me in an elevator when we were alone and made me feel uncomfortable"

Edge @ 10/11/2017 12:10

Chris/Igor, what do you gain from trying to convince people that things are getting better all the time. How would it personally affect you if you just acknowledged that shit happens, and it sucks - without throwing in a "but..." qualifier to paint a picture of a downtrodden man? And that even though some people get wrongly accused and it ruins lives, it's not worth clamping down on all rape accusations and possibly pushing actual victims away from reporting their attacks? Like I can understand having different views, and believe it or not I do respect it up to a point, but you all argue these things as if it is side vs. side, while the other side is arguing "hey we should all be a team working towards goal x." You're not arguing with what most people would call "SJWs" here. Just people who want to see the world be a little bit better for everyone.

I dunno, what do you gain from virtue signaling all the time?

Chris25 @ 10/11/2017 15:51

Edge @ 10/11/2017 12:10 Chris/Igor, what do you gain from trying to convince people that things are getting better all the time. How would it personally affect you if you just acknowledged that shit happens, and it sucks - without throwing in a "but..." qualifier to paint a picture of a downtrodden man? And that even though some people get wrongly accused and it ruins lives, it's not worth clamping down on all rape accusations and possibly pushing actual victims away from reporting their attacks? Like I can understand having different views, and believe it or not I do respect it up to a point, but you all argue these things as if it is side vs. side, while the other side is arguing "hey we should all be a team working towards goal x." You're not arguing with what most people would call "SJWs" here. Just people who want to see the world be a little bit better for everyone. I dunno, what do you gain from virtue signaling all the time?

My heart

#TIMEFORTIM @ 10/11/2017 14:24

I couldn't imagine talking with someone on the phone and realzing that they are jacking off. Creepy. Just really strange stories and pretty uncomfortable. He wasn't Spacey level forceful but just a straight up creep

Give me a call sometime big Dyl ;)

Chris25 @ 10/11/2017 14:51

I dunno, what do you gain from virtue signaling all the time?

Enough self respect not to jack off in front of unwilling people.

Willing people? Totally different story.

Nofo @ 10/11/2017 14:43

If I was a hot girl I would totally be an escort. Get paid for going to dinner and not having to sleep with a man? Yes please.

Honestly though, no one on this planet has more "privilege" than a hot white chick.

Chris25 @ 10/11/2017 15:57

Nofo @ 10/11/2017 14:43 If I was a hot girl I would totally be an escort. Get paid for going to dinner and not having to sleep with a man? Yes please. Honestly though, no one on this planet has more "privilege" than a hot white chick.

Lol

vladykins @ 10/11/2017 14:54

Chris25 @ 10/11/2017 14:51 I dunno, what do you gain from virtue signaling all the time? Enough self respect not to jack off in front of unwilling people. Willing people? Totally different story.

So like 99.9% of the men on the planet?

Chris25 @ 10/11/2017 15:51

Edge @ 10/11/2017 12:10 Chris/Igor, what do you gain from trying to convince people that things are getting better all the time. How would it personally affect you if you just acknowledged that shit happens, and it sucks - without throwing in a "but..." qualifier to paint a picture of a downtrodden man? And that even though some people get wrongly accused and it ruins lives, it's not worth clamping down on all rape accusations and possibly pushing actual victims away from reporting their attacks? Like I can understand having different views, and believe it or not I do respect it up to a point, but you all argue these things as if it is side vs. side, while the other side is arguing "hey we should all be a team working towards goal x." You're not arguing with what most people would call "SJWs" here. Just people who want to see the world be a little bit better for everyone. I dunno, what do you gain from virtue signaling all the time?

I'm legitimately just trying to understand you and Igor. Well, mainly Igor since you just retreat behind loltrolling and catchphrases you've read somewhere else any time someone tries to have an honest conversation with you.

http://www.vulture.com/2017/11/louis-ck-is-done.html

I officially throw in the towel.

Positions have been repeated ad nauseam, no one is changing their mind. More importantly no one wants to change their mind or even begin to try to understand the other side. It's just a series of talking points being volleyed back and forth. It's a chore at this point to try to explain how to be a decent person and how acknowledging that straight white men have it very easy in this world compared to others doesn't mean you hate straight white men and/or yourself.

Louis CK's apology:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2017/11/10/louis_ck_says_sexual_misconduct_allegations_are_true.html?utm_content=inf_11_2641_2&wpsrc=socialedge&tse_id=INF_20dcd210c65211e7b926579f881108d6

vladykins @ 10/11/2017 16:18

Louis CK's apology: http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2017/11/10/louis_ck_says_sexual_misconduct_allegations_are_true.html?utm_content=inf_11_2641_2&wpsrc=socialedge&tse_id=INF_20dcd210c65211e7b926579f881108d6

So much better and obviously more heartfelt than "I was drunk and also I'm gay, ttyl."

Edge @ 10/11/2017 15:00

Chris25 @ 10/11/2017 15:51 Edge @ 10/11/2017 12:10 Chris/Igor, what do you gain from trying to convince people that things are getting better all the time. How would it personally affect you if you just acknowledged that shit happens, and it sucks - without throwing in a "but..." qualifier to paint a picture of a downtrodden man? And that even though some people get wrongly accused and it ruins lives, it's not worth clamping down on all rape accusations and possibly pushing actual victims away from reporting their attacks? Like I can understand having different views, and believe it or not I do respect it up to a point, but you all argue these things as if it is side vs. side, while the other side is arguing "hey we should all be a team working towards goal x." You're not arguing with what most people would call "SJWs" here. Just people who want to see the world be a little bit better for everyone. I dunno, what do you gain from virtue signaling all the time? I'm legitimately just trying to understand you and Igor. Well, mainly Igor since you just retreat behind loltrolling and catchphrases you've read somewhere else any time someone tries to have an honest conversation with you.

I'd love to have a legitimate conversation with you about this but there is never one specific issue anyone wants to talk about. It's like trying to have a conversation with a bunch of ADHD crackheads. Even your word vomit post above makes no fucking sense to even try to pin down the point you're trying to make.

I honestly don't even know where to start unpacking it's just so all over the place.

What do I get from trying to convince everyone things are getting better? I like facts and truth. This whole "rape epidemic" fad isn't a real thing according to facts. Just because people "feel" like it is doesn't mean it's the truth. Try presenting facts to a climate change denier that only watches fox news, same deal.

How would it affect me if I admitted that shit sucks? Doesn't at all. Shit sucks, it's just not nearly as bad as everyone wants to believe in this specific issue.

Next sentence clamping down on rape victims because some men are falsey accused? What the fuck are you even talking about. That statement doesn't add up to me at all, please clarify.

Next paragraph. Your interpretation is that all this is about is just a group of scrappy go getters trying to make the world a better place? What goal exactly are these people working towards by just acting like a snarky smartass when someone brings up a counter point? Because if it's anything other than straight trolling it ain't shit.