BadgerMcBeaver @ 30/5/2017 20:19

Mercator @ 30/5/2017 23:13 For Angi to be scum and using Curtis' role as a claim, she would need to be aligned with TIB, since he would have to be lying about getting the item from her. Angi's claim of the failed invention gift came before Primate admitted to using the ability. I don't see how she could have known that it would fail AND know that Tib received a gift night 3 (especially considering she has been essential to most maf lynches so far). Angi, if you are reading this, have more confidence in your reads in the future. You've been kicking ass this game.

Mercator @ 30/5/2017 23:19

thisisbad @ 30/5/2017 20:16 Mercator @ 30/5/2017 21:13 Timmah @ 30/5/2017 19:20 Mercator @ 30/5/2017 21:01 I wish they had killed me, I can't believe I was wrong about him ugh. I can. Primate seemed pretty town the entire game. Meta, but he doesn't play that aggressively usually when scum. At least not for that protracted length of time. Does Primate's flip and his saying that he didn't use his role until N2 put Angi squarely back on the hot seat? Primate implied that he used it N1 (saying no one would have visited him then) on D4, but Herm's investigation failed on him failed N2 according to Herm. For Angi to be scum and using Curtis' role as a claim, she would need to be aligned with TIB, since he would have to be lying about getting the item from her. TBH I can see it because that her invention intercepted N1 sounds like BS, not sold though. So you can see me and angi aligned...as what exactly Last 2 mafia? Not sold though, need to think about all possibilities.

Merc... I really think your read is off here.

Mercator @ 30/5/2017 21:19

thisisbad @ 30/5/2017 20:16 Mercator @ 30/5/2017 21:13 Timmah @ 30/5/2017 19:20 Mercator @ 30/5/2017 21:01 I wish they had killed me, I can't believe I was wrong about him ugh. I can. Primate seemed pretty town the entire game. Meta, but he doesn't play that aggressively usually when scum. At least not for that protracted length of time. Does Primate's flip and his saying that he didn't use his role until N2 put Angi squarely back on the hot seat? Primate implied that he used it N1 (saying no one would have visited him then) on D4, but Herm's investigation failed on him failed N2 according to Herm. For Angi to be scum and using Curtis' role as a claim, she would need to be aligned with TIB, since he would have to be lying about getting the item from her. TBH I can see it because that her invention intercepted N1 sounds like BS, not sold though. So you can see me and angi aligned...as what exactly Last 2 mafia? Not sold though, need to think about all possibilities.

So you don't think I was silenced and u don't think I used angi's item to save badger.

And the thing with Primate could have been just a lie for if Curtis had given an invention, just a theory.

So here's something interesting I noticed. The only real evidence behind Miko's claim comes from a day when the mafia tracker was still alive. He hinted at having more information but that he was waiting, but he has yet to tell us.

He's moving down into my potential scum category until I hear more from him about the supposed information he received.

BadgerMcBeaver @ 30/5/2017 21:57

My issue with the Stephen is scum argument is that THIS was the post that people jumped on: Quote Okay, I'm going to go back to what I was originally doing and ##lynch Zachary It came down to just some skips in logic that I cannot make sense of. If killing the princess would have sent the game immediately into another night phase, Zachary should have claimed this after DS was killed since the likelihood of a strongman/etc role being used was high. Angi brought light to this and that makes complete sense to me. I don't get why Angi is lynching Maddie when she basically said that Zachary should have claimed, not claiming it seems more like something mafia would do. Idk. Also looking the role up, it's usually only a lynch that will send the game into two nights -- not a killing. The killing just doesn't make sense as a condition on the role. Zach WAS the right call that day. And TBH I had similar concerns about Angi going into the next day. People thought that this was his attempt to save Maddie and lynch Zach. They were correct. Why is this a bad thing?

That's not what set off my radar on Stephen, fwiw. I've said it a bunch, but he came across as mafia to me that entire day by actively trying to paint the announcement that Zach was scum as a chaos team action, and only after I started calling him out on it did he reverse course and decide that lynching Zach would be okay. Or at least that's how I remember it.

Mercator @ 30/5/2017 23:15

Timmah @ 30/5/2017 19:49 Why would it not be Merc, if anyone, from that group? I don't necessarily disagree with the Kiwi line of thinking, though. He seemed helpful early and has then pretty much disappeared. Stephen has done the exact same ever since I started telling you all that he's scum, fwiw. I will go ahead and ##lynch Stephen Because I've been playing like a town player with a shitty role from D1 that's prepared to be killed at night instead of a town PR? Literally me_irl

When you say shitty role, are you saying vanilla or worse than vanilla?

I disagree on miko but I'm guessing

BadgerMcBeaver @ 30/5/2017 22:28

Mercator @ 30/5/2017 23:15 Timmah @ 30/5/2017 19:49 Why would it not be Merc, if anyone, from that group? I don't necessarily disagree with the Kiwi line of thinking, though. He seemed helpful early and has then pretty much disappeared. Stephen has done the exact same ever since I started telling you all that he's scum, fwiw. I will go ahead and ##lynch Stephen Because I've been playing like a town player with a shitty role from D1 that's prepared to be killed at night instead of a town PR? Literally me_irl When you say shitty role, are you saying vanilla or worse than vanilla?

And how has your play indicated that you would think you'd be killed at night? Other than being aggressive, I don't see it.

BadgerMcBeaver @ 30/5/2017 20:21

Mercator @ 30/5/2017 23:19 thisisbad @ 30/5/2017 20:16 Mercator @ 30/5/2017 21:13 Timmah @ 30/5/2017 19:20 Mercator @ 30/5/2017 21:01 I wish they had killed me, I can't believe I was wrong about him ugh. I can. Primate seemed pretty town the entire game. Meta, but he doesn't play that aggressively usually when scum. At least not for that protracted length of time. Does Primate's flip and his saying that he didn't use his role until N2 put Angi squarely back on the hot seat? Primate implied that he used it N1 (saying no one would have visited him then) on D4, but Herm's investigation failed on him failed N2 according to Herm. For Angi to be scum and using Curtis' role as a claim, she would need to be aligned with TIB, since he would have to be lying about getting the item from her. TBH I can see it because that her invention intercepted N1 sounds like BS, not sold though. So you can see me and angi aligned...as what exactly Last 2 mafia? Not sold though, need to think about all possibilities. Merc... I really think your read is off here.

It's not a read lol, my read is that Angi's useless lynch D2 and Zach's useless lynch D4 smell like scum trying to look good in the future.

This is just a random theory for if Curtis was the inventor and Angi's using it.

Like, trying to give Primate it Night 1 doesn't make any sense, he lynched DS and everyone probably thought DS was what he said he was at that point.
That someone intercepted it Night 1 also sounds like bs.

However she could have lynched Stephen D5, it would have looked bad but if she was mafia she could have saved him so I'm not sure.

He's saying role with no night actions

BadgerMcBeaver @ 30/5/2017 20:28

Mercator @ 30/5/2017 23:15 Timmah @ 30/5/2017 19:49 Why would it not be Merc, if anyone, from that group? I don't necessarily disagree with the Kiwi line of thinking, though. He seemed helpful early and has then pretty much disappeared. Stephen has done the exact same ever since I started telling you all that he's scum, fwiw. I will go ahead and ##lynch Stephen Because I've been playing like a town player with a shitty role from D1 that's prepared to be killed at night instead of a town PR? Literally me_irl When you say shitty role, are you saying vanilla or worse than vanilla?

WOULDN'T YOU LIKE TO KNOW?

BadgerMcBeaver @ 30/5/2017 22:24

So here's something interesting I noticed. The only real evidence behind Miko's claim comes from a day when the mafia tracker was still alive. He hinted at having more information but that he was waiting, but he has yet to tell us. He's moving down into my potential scum category until I hear more from him about the supposed information he received.

The only thing that Miko said is that Merc didn't go anywhere. He could've gotten that from mafia tracker, or he and Merc could both be mafia with Merc as GF. Both are options I'd consider.

Timmah @ 30/5/2017 20:28

BadgerMcBeaver @ 30/5/2017 22:28 Mercator @ 30/5/2017 23:15 Timmah @ 30/5/2017 19:49 Why would it not be Merc, if anyone, from that group? I don't necessarily disagree with the Kiwi line of thinking, though. He seemed helpful early and has then pretty much disappeared. Stephen has done the exact same ever since I started telling you all that he's scum, fwiw. I will go ahead and ##lynch Stephen Because I've been playing like a town player with a shitty role from D1 that's prepared to be killed at night instead of a town PR? Literally me_irl When you say shitty role, are you saying vanilla or worse than vanilla? And how has your play indicated that you would think you'd be killed at night? Other than being aggressive, I don't see it.

Well everyone started throwing shade on me so it backfired.

If angi was mafia she would have given me an item the same day I was silenced, meaning I couldn't help her prove her role.
If she was mafia lynching zach was the worst play ever.
If she was mafia she wouldn't suggest this murder show I'm liking...oh wait...