Redster @ 11/5/2016 8:10

I still want to know what is up with the single kill last night. With tib being hider it seems like we should have either 2 deaths or a death and a survival.

Actually, I think I just answered my own question. Tib must have hid behind scum, and scum targeted him with their attack. Their attack failed since he was hiding, and he died because he hid with scum.

BadgerMcBeaver @ 11/5/2016 7:35

Ari @ 11/5/2016 9:32 Very interesting Redster. I dont want to roleclaim right now, but I will do it tomorrow. I want to do it tomorrow as I have a plan tonight that might fuck up some stuff for the mafia and I can find out what role Buffy has. Not scanning related though. I would prefer to try the plan out on Buffy, as it seems like she is the roleblocker, and not Badger as I suspect he might have a non-visiting mafia role or a limited-visit mafia role. I think it will work better that way. So that means I would prefer lynching Badger today, who is scum anyways, and I should be able to fuck shit up for the mafia and confirm Redster's suspicion about Buffy. This will also prove my role. Needless to say, if we go with my plan and I am killed tonight, you lynch Buffy. This idea might work if I was actually scum, but you're just tunneling. Or scum trying to protect scum. One of the two.

As soon as I read Ari's post it seemed more of an attempt to try to get another day for Buffy, possibly to make sure she got one more block in tonight, kinda like Brian's pitch to make it one more day so he could use his one-time redirect. Not saying Ari is scum, but his post makes me think he may be scum. The only thing that makes me think that he isn't, is that it would be a big risk if we do indeed have a lot of town left, as I can't see scum being able to mass kill a lot of town tonight. Either way I think that we are at the point of the remaining people claiming so that we can figure out which claims we believe.

Redster @ 11/5/2016 8:10

I still want to know what is up with the single kill last night. With tib being hider it seems like we should have either 2 deaths or a death and a survival.

Redster @ 11/5/2016 8:10

I still want to know what is up with the single kill last night. With tib being hider it seems like we should have either 2 deaths or a death and a survival.

That's why I asked if it is common over here for someone to know that they were attacked and saved by the doc, or if the doc is told whether his save was needed or not, and if it was needed, if it was successful.

Timmah @ 11/5/2016 9:47

Votes piling up quickly. I don't disagree, but let's not hammer early or anything. I'm Town Oracle, btw. Already gave the info I have so far, but in this version of the oracle, I'm simply given info on specific days.

for the reading impaired

CanuckStud @ 11/5/2016 10:16

Redster @ 11/5/2016 8:10 I still want to know what is up with the single kill last night. With tib being hider it seems like we should have either 2 deaths or a death and a survival. Redster @ 11/5/2016 8:10 I still want to know what is up with the single kill last night. With tib being hider it seems like we should have either 2 deaths or a death and a survival. That's why I asked if it is common over here for someone to know that they were attacked and saved by the doc, or if the doc is told whether his save was needed or not, and if it was needed, if it was successful.

A save/survival is almost always part of the write-up, as we've seen several times already in this game with people surviving attacks.

Timmah @ 11/5/2016 9:49

Alive (12): 7. Drr 8. Buffy 9. Angi - town joat 10. Wikey - town mystery voter 11. Mal - town priest 13. Eben - town bp 15. Nofo - town vt 17. Badger - town hated 19. Timmah - town oracle 21. canuck - town doc 22. Ari 27. Redster - town tracker Ari is hinting at his role, and there are only 3 unknowns left. Will be interesting to see what the claims are.

Timmah @ 11/5/2016 8:16

Timmah @ 11/5/2016 9:47 Votes piling up quickly. I don't disagree, but let's not hammer early or anything. I'm Town Oracle, btw. Already gave the info I have so far, but in this version of the oracle, I'm simply given info on specific days. for the reading impaired

Hey, I'm not about to go back through all of the days to see if I missed info you gave. You made it sound like you've given more info than just the number of VT's and 3rd party, so I'm just making sure I haven't missed anything.

And, I'm with Canuck, I think Ari is scum and is stalling for both his claim and to get Buffy an extra night, while perhaps taking out another town role. I can see him getting that extra night for the mafia blocker, and then throwing her under the bus tomorrow to get town cred and "confirm" his role claim.

Timmah @ 11/5/2016 8:18

CanuckStud @ 11/5/2016 10:16 Redster @ 11/5/2016 8:10 I still want to know what is up with the single kill last night. With tib being hider it seems like we should have either 2 deaths or a death and a survival. Redster @ 11/5/2016 8:10 I still want to know what is up with the single kill last night. With tib being hider it seems like we should have either 2 deaths or a death and a survival. That's why I asked if it is common over here for someone to know that they were attacked and saved by the doc, or if the doc is told whether his save was needed or not, and if it was needed, if it was successful. A save/survival is almost always part of the write-up, as we've seen several times already in this game with people surviving attacks.

But from what I remember, all of the saves were due to the person's role, not the doc or Angi, so I wasn't sure if doc saves were posted or reported or not.

CanuckStud @ 11/5/2016 10:19

Timmah @ 11/5/2016 8:16 Timmah @ 11/5/2016 9:47 Votes piling up quickly. I don't disagree, but let's not hammer early or anything. I'm Town Oracle, btw. Already gave the info I have so far, but in this version of the oracle, I'm simply given info on specific days. for the reading impaired Hey, I'm not about to go back through all of the days to see if I missed info you gave. You made it sound like you've given more info than just the number of VT's and 3rd party, so I'm just making sure I haven't missed anything.

When did I make it sound like I gave more info?

How many scum do we think we started with? 27 players, so I would think 9 scum, so if we don't have a SKIT, then say 8 mafia and 1 SK? Based on taking out the SK and 3 mafia, that would mean we are still looking for 5 more mafia. With 12 left, if we lynch town, and scum kills at night, we are done. That could be why Ari is wanting to wait on lynching Buffy, because he knows that they could win if they lynch town and successfully kill. Also, with having 3 people who haven't claimed, that would mean that some of the people who have claimed are lying.

Timmah @ 11/5/2016 8:21

CanuckStud @ 11/5/2016 10:19 Timmah @ 11/5/2016 8:16 Timmah @ 11/5/2016 9:47 Votes piling up quickly. I don't disagree, but let's not hammer early or anything. I'm Town Oracle, btw. Already gave the info I have so far, but in this version of the oracle, I'm simply given info on specific days. for the reading impaired Hey, I'm not about to go back through all of the days to see if I missed info you gave. You made it sound like you've given more info than just the number of VT's and 3rd party, so I'm just making sure I haven't missed anything. When did I make it sound like I gave more info?

I read your claim about giving the info you had and that you are simply given info on specific days, as that you should have more info than just the one day you shared with us.

CanuckStud @ 11/5/2016 10:24

How many scum do we think we started with? 27 players, so I would think 9 scum, so if we don't have a SKIT, then say 8 mafia and 1 SK? Based on taking out the SK and 3 mafia, that would mean we are still looking for 5 more mafia. With 12 left, if we lynch town, and scum kills at night, we are done. That could be why Ari is wanting to wait on lynching Buffy, because he knows that they could win if they lynch town and successfully kill. Also, with having 3 people who haven't claimed, that would mean that some of the people who have claimed are lying.

This is a good point. I suppose we could theoretically be at lylo.

Ok, I gotta get some work done. Will check in later.

Timmah @ 11/5/2016 8:28

CanuckStud @ 11/5/2016 10:24 How many scum do we think we started with? 27 players, so I would think 9 scum, so if we don't have a SKIT, then say 8 mafia and 1 SK? Based on taking out the SK and 3 mafia, that would mean we are still looking for 5 more mafia. With 12 left, if we lynch town, and scum kills at night, we are done. That could be why Ari is wanting to wait on lynching Buffy, because he knows that they could win if they lynch town and successfully kill. Also, with having 3 people who haven't claimed, that would mean that some of the people who have claimed are lying. This is a good point. I suppose we could theoretically be at lylo.

The fuck?

9 scum of 27 players would be 33%. That is high for a scum count imo.

Rule of thumb ahoda and I usually go with is 25%. Pretty sure I've heard other mods use this number as well.

I would think 7 scum would be more likely. Maybe 8 at most.

Minus 1 SK and 3 mafia leaves us with 3 - 4 scummers. Not lylo, but getting close if we fuck up another lynch.

Buffy - scum
Badger - scum
Ari - scum

Lynch those 3 and if the game is still going evaluate claims based on whoever is left alive.