A housekeeping question:

the list has DR and brian still alive:

PILTHY AMERICANSU LEPT TO DIE, DON'TU PORGET THAT I HATE YOU.

1. Merc
2. KC (Tree Stump'd)
4. Patrick
5. Schrauben
7. itsbrianyay
8. Rob of 2015
9. Herm
11. im317
14. DR
16. Vern
18. Angi
20. Chris
21. Timmah
22. Tricks
26. Ahoda
28. DD
29. Matt
30. Lamps


DED

Vic - Town Tracker - Lynched Day 1
Ari - Cult Leader - Killed Night 1
Paulus - Third Party Demon Worshiper - Killed Night 1
Greenday - Town Roleblocker - Lynched Day 2
Dylan - Town Doctor - Killed Night 2
Aries - Town Gatekeeper - Killed Night 2
Buffy - Mutant Thief - Killed Night 2
Wikey - Town Judas - Modkilled Night 2
Nofo - Town Handyman - Modkilled Day 3
Zersch - Mutant Saboteur - Killed Night 3
Moose - Third Party Serial Killer - Killed Night 3
Curtis - Town Mole - Killed Night 3
Brian - Third Party Scavenger turned Third Party Serial Killer - Lynched Day 4
Rose - Third Party Lyncher - Killed Night 4
Matt - Town Guard - Killed Night 4

But they is itsbrianyay and DR, right? and they are not alive? Just trying to make sure I have the proper list of characters here since its my first game in this forum.

Timmah @ 17/2/2015 14:36

A housekeeping question: the list has DR and brian still alive: PILTHY AMERICANSU LEPT TO DIE, DON'TU PORGET THAT I HATE YOU. 1. Merc 2. KC (Tree Stump'd) 4. Patrick 5. Schrauben 7. itsbrianyay 8. Rob of 2015 9. Herm 11. im317 14. DR (Pretty sure this is Rose) 16. Vern 18. Angi 20. Chris 21. Timmah 22. Tricks 26. Ahoda 28. DD 29. Matt 30. Lamps DED Vic - Town Tracker - Lynched Day 1 Ari - Cult Leader - Killed Night 1 Paulus - Third Party Demon Worshiper - Killed Night 1 Greenday - Town Roleblocker - Lynched Day 2 Dylan - Town Doctor - Killed Night 2 Aries - Town Gatekeeper - Killed Night 2 Buffy - Mutant Thief - Killed Night 2 Wikey - Town Judas - Modkilled Night 2 Nofo - Town Handyman - Modkilled Day 3 Zersch - Mutant Saboteur - Killed Night 3 Moose - Third Party Serial Killer - Killed Night 3 Curtis - Town Mole - Killed Night 3 Brian - Third Party Scavenger turned Third Party Serial Killer - Lynched Day 4 Rose - Third Party Lyncher - Killed Night 4 Matt - Town Guard - Killed Night 4 But they is itsbrianyay and DR, right? and they are not alive? Just trying to make sure I have the proper list of characters here since its my first game in this forum.

I struck through those that are dead. And I'm pretty sure that dr is Rose. We should be down to 15.

I'm not trying to play flavor here, but is flavor used in these games to denote who is doing the killing?

Ari died N1 - knife to chest & knife landed on forehead
Paulus died N1 - knife to chest
Dylan died N2 - unicorn horn to chest (I assume it was knife and the flavor was his hallucenation)
Aries died N2 - knife to back
Wikey died N2 - modkilled
Buffy died N2 - screwdriver to face
Curtis died N3 - knife to back
Zersch died N3 - knife landed on forehead
Moose died N3 - face clawed off
Rose died N4 - knife from the front
Matt died N4 - knife to the chest

It looks like there are at least the following flavor of kills:
1. knife to chest
2. knife to back
3. knife landing on forehead
4. face kills - screwdriver and clawed off so far

What's with the knives to the forehead? It's clearly a kill as it killed Zersch and also happened to Ari on N1.

Also, the tug-o-war was sabotaged, with Ahoda (unknown) versus Moose (SK). This was done prior to our knowledge of Zersch as a sabatuer, so it seems more like a protection than a framing.

The lie detector seems to have been sabotaged too, which, knowing of a sabatuer by that point, could be a framing. The other option is simple lynch protection - denoting mayor/governor/godfather type of role?

I was told the last game Timmah not to place too much value in the flavor here. Not like we tend to do, where you and I come from.

schrauben @ 17/2/2015 9:50

I was told the last game Timmah not to place too much value in the flavor here. Not like we tend to do, where you and I come from.

Regardless, we have the following:

N1 = 3 attacks (Ari x 2, and Paulus)
N2 = 4 attacks (Dlyan, Aries, Buffy) + brian survived an attack
N3 = 4 attacks (Moose, Curtis, Zersch) + Moose survived an attack
N3 = 2 attacks (Rose, Matt)

Nofo claimed to kill Buffy, so that takes one away from N2. Brian picked up his SK N2 iirc, so that adds the extra to N3.

You have N3 listed twice, but N3 had two extra attacks I think for Brian and Moose. Unless Moose doesn't get off her kill attempt due to order of night actions.

Something else that is bothering me. In D4, Matt simply told us that he watched road 3 N2 and N3. He said that on N2, he saw 2 people pass through. On N3, he saw the same 2 people pass through and a third. He never told us who he saw that I can find.

Then Angi comes in and answers the question "why are we lynching Chris" with "Matt saw him walking down the road last night". Then she says Matt named Chris, again. Matt never actually said that...

Angi and Tricks led the crusade to put Chris in that lie detector, with Angi claiming Matt said things he did not. Tricks also defended Angi. It's starting to look more and more to me like the 3 of them are aligned. I'd probably wager an entire dollar on that.

Gate C was locked on N2 and N3, when Matt said he was watching. If we look through the list of names on that side of the map we find that Matt wouldn't have seen DR, greenday, Curtis, or himself. Nor would he have seen vic. That leaves the 3 guys in cell C (schrauben, chris, and merc) and it leaves the other 2 in cell B (Angi and 317). Curtis died in cell I, which is behind those locked doors, so one of the 3 he saw clearly killed Curtis. He could have seen a strongman I suppose, but would he not have told us there was someone there who couldn't have been there? It'd have been obvious who the bad guy was...

schrauben @ 17/2/2015 10:17

You have N3 listed twice, but N3 had two extra attacks I think for Brian and Moose. Unless Moose doesn't get off her kill attempt due to order of night actions.

Sorry, that second N3, should be N4.

Given that it was Angi that made up that Matt said it was Chris who was the extra person he saw, it could be that it was her he saw and she was trying (successfully) to push it off on Chris. If that's true, then it's likely that Tricks is mafia with her, and that they sabotaged Chris' lie detector to make him the primary lynch target for today.

Timm

Timmah @ 17/2/2015 9:24

Something else that is bothering me. In D4, Matt simply told us that he watched road 3 N2 and N3. He said that on N2, he saw 2 people pass through. On N3, he saw the same 2 people pass through and a third. He never told us who he saw that I can find.

Day four, page four. Matt's third post on the page is him directly accusing Chris.

Rob of 2015 @ 17/2/2015 10:31

Timm Timmah @ 17/2/2015 9:24 Something else that is bothering me. In D4, Matt simply told us that he watched road 3 N2 and N3. He said that on N2, he saw 2 people pass through. On N3, he saw the same 2 people pass through and a third. He never told us who he saw that I can find. Day four, page four. Matt's third post on the page is him directly accusing Chris.

Well, shit! I re-read D4 twice because I thought I had to just be missing that. And I missed it on every reading of that day. Alright, we can ignore the Angi stuff I posted, for now anyway.

Flavor should usually not be taken into context, but the screwdriver flavor kill was obviously Nofo since it stated so in his death flavor. Kill someone with a screwdriver. I think the kills with knifes and the supernatural kills/non-knife kills could be different killers though.

And yes, dr is Rose.

I do think that it's possible that Ahoda is scum, unless Zersch just saboutaged the Tug of War for the hell of it? Moose was attacked twice, one attack she survived and another attack killed her. Even though she was bulletproof. That same night Matt saw Chris leave his room, he kept dodging the questions and to face the lie detector question he said he was tow.

I really don't think Chris is framed by mafia, I think he could've framed Brian only Matt caught him in the act. Chris didn't really answer Matt's allegations either.

And Chris never did answer Matt's question about what he was doing. The more I read though day 4, Chris is looking better unless he can answer Matt's question about what he was doing out.

Hi Chris, do you have an answer to Matt's question yesterday?

Alright, it kinda looks like I'm backed into a corner here, I'll claim.

Town Trapper

You see a bear trap, place it near yourself, the person that tries to kill you will be killed instead. Also you have the option placing the trap on a path, first person to travel through will die.

You win when all hostile threats are eliminated.

The night in question Matt saw me placing a bear trap out on a path.