Looks like I've missed an entertaining day. I'm still trying to make sense of all the new info. That was a lot of twists and turns.

Something bothers me about the way Rose went about outing her info. Also, Puppetmaster doesn't sound like a pro town role. That aside I've got a town read on her though so I'll leave that be for now.

I think Helios or Sock should be the lynch if we want to clear things up some more. Darkus would be an easy lynch but I'm happy to leave him be for today.

Helios Garabandia @ 23/10/2018 15:45

Timmah @ 23/10/2018 15:22 I still don't think Helios has ever actually claimed vig. Just hinted at it a lot. Apparently I need to spell it out even more? I. Am. Odd. Night. Vig.

It just seemed odd to me that even with the subsequent claim from rose, you never actually said it.

Helios Garabandia @ 23/10/2018 15:51

Mike @ 23/10/2018 15:48 Calling Spin out for not voting Helios is weak and Vic and Helios should know better than to call that scummy. I too won't vote. Not yet anyway. There's no point, as there's a healthy lead on Helios, and plenty of time left in the day Making a show out of wanting to vote someone, but not actually vote them is bad. Spin's "justification" was worse. Pretty cut and dry scum behavior imo. Note this too, Town friends.

Don't get me wrong, I've got a lurking scum read on Spin otherwise. Just thought that wasn't the best reasoning.

Sock @ 23/10/2018 15:50

ZacharyB @ 23/10/2018 15:48 Alright guys i was gone for two hours if there were any more dramatics reveals im gonna be pissed Everyone is scum and/or vig

Scum AND vig, you misspoke

Helios Garabandia @ 23/10/2018 15:58

Sock @ 23/10/2018 15:50 ZacharyB @ 23/10/2018 15:48 Alright guys i was gone for two hours if there were any more dramatics reveals im gonna be pissed Everyone is scum and/or vig Scum AND vig, you misspoke

I wasn't sure if Zach' s poor heart could take that kind of a shock this late in the day

Okay, I was gonna start this post by lynching Sock but I've just talked myself into another theory while making this posts. I'm gonna lay down my thoughts as they occurred.

Something giving me pause with the Helios lynch is that an odd night vig is not outside the realm of possibility, and the only reason I see that we are lynching him is because he apparently survived an attack last night....well there are many ways he might have survived. There's almost certainly a doctor in play (granted, I doubt Helios would have been their target last night)

Plus, this would mean Rose was either lying about her role/alignment, or that they were both telling the truth and are town. Seems like that would give town too many killing roles.

Socks claim is weird, but the thing that makes me want to believe it is this; it sounds a bit like the role that Henry and Curtis played in my amazing Teletubbies Mafia game. With that role, you picked someone during a day phase, and then shared a private forum with that player during the night, at the end of which you could choose to spare them or execute them.

Socks role sounds like that without the option of letting his target survive.

Sock, have you used your role at all yet?

Socks role would have it's uses. If he picked town by accident, his victim would have the chance to impart any useful information to him before they died.

I reckon his role is legit.

Mike @ 23/10/2018 16:07

Sock, have you used your role at all yet?

I have not

In which case it comes down to who to believe between Helios and Rose.

I trust Rose way more.

It couldn't hurt to clarify some things though. Rose, why did you unlynch Helios after his claim, only to change your mind again?

Also, is Helios' survival the main reason you suspect him?

Starting to get bad vibes from Vic

N1 deaths:

DS - Rose's claimed kill
Zersch - Helios' claimed kill
Lamps - Town Hider.

N2 deaths:

Patrick - Rose's claimed kill
Maddie - Likely Mafia kill
Survival - ???

N3 deaths:

Farlig - Likely Mafia kill
Christian - Helios' claimed kill
Survival (Helios) - Rose's claimed kill

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Something doesn't seem right. Where's the N1 mafia kill?

Sock @ 23/10/2018 16:09

Mike @ 23/10/2018 16:07 Sock, have you used your role at all yet? I have not

Cool. I think you should use it Night 4 if you make it that far. There'll be no shortage of good targets going into tonight.

Gotta ask though, why were you considering Timmah and Paul?

Spin at least, made sense as a target to me. The other two, not so much. Not ruling them out as scum, they just seem like a shot in the dark to me.

@Nav

Is it possible Lamps didn't use his role N1 and was killed by Mafia?