Gonna go ahead and ##Vote: Patrick because you're never going to convince me a Vote Thief is a Town ability.

Wish I could do more than love and be loved. Sex would be nice

Helios Garabandia @ 29/1/2018 14:59

I also can't wait until the postgame so I can figure out HOW THE SHIT my commute seemed to have no effect.

because Wikey's mimic action didn't rely on actually visiting a person.

im317 @ 29/1/2018 19:59

this not being a normal game for abilities is really starting to get annoying. lynching Helios doesn't resolve things unless he flips scum. if he flips town do we turn around and lynch Nav? he had no reason to counter claim so hes probably town.

I wouldn't lynch Nav if that were the case, but that is not a reason NOT to vote Helios rn.

Christian @ 29/1/2018 14:04

Helios Garabandia @ 29/1/2018 14:59 I also can't wait until the postgame so I can figure out HOW THE SHIT my commute seemed to have no effect. because Wikey's mimic action didn't rely on actually visiting a person.

But at the same time, me commuting should make me untargetable. I just don't see how the two go together.

Lamps @ 29/1/2018 14:05

im317 @ 29/1/2018 19:59 this not being a normal game for abilities is really starting to get annoying. lynching Helios doesn't resolve things unless he flips scum. if he flips town do we turn around and lynch Nav? he had no reason to counter claim so hes probably town. I wouldn't lynch Nav if that were the case, but that is not a reason NOT to vote Helios rn.

Of course not. Because for you, every argument and statement can be directed to "lynch Helios".

Sock @ 29/1/2018 5:09

Patrick feels like DS to me

Helios Garabandia @ 29/1/2018 8:03

Mads @ 29/1/2018 10:59 Helios @ 28/1/2018 14:30 Alternately, Wikey knows my role because I dropped massive hints in this topic about it. And that particular role has a very standard set of conditions, so it wouldn't be anything for him to be able to claim the conditions. What do you make of saying this now that we know Wikey's role? I still have no idea how Wikey's action actually worked. I commuted N1, so Wikey shouldn't have been able to do anything to me or with me N1. He claims hostie said his action didn't count as a visit (which, wtf?), and that seems to have been the case. Frankly, if I commute, and someone claims to have visited me while commuting, I'm gonna call them out for lying 100% of the time.

Do blocks happen before commuting? Maybe you were blocked

im317 @ 29/1/2018 13:59

this not being a normal game for abilities is really starting to get annoying. lynching Helios doesn't resolve things unless he flips scum. if he flips town do we turn around and lynch Nav? he had no reason to counter claim so hes probably town. Zersch has jury duty, but that doesn't explain why he wasn't around Sunday. for an alternate vote i would rather Patrick over Sock because i feel like we have gotten something out of Patrick, where as we would be lynching Sock without him ever really saying anything.

Zersch has jury duty? Is this a huge ass scum slip?

Helios Garabandia @ 29/1/2018 20:06

Lamps @ 29/1/2018 14:05 im317 @ 29/1/2018 19:59 this not being a normal game for abilities is really starting to get annoying. lynching Helios doesn't resolve things unless he flips scum. if he flips town do we turn around and lynch Nav? he had no reason to counter claim so hes probably town. I wouldn't lynch Nav if that were the case, but that is not a reason NOT to vote Helios rn. Of course not. Because for you, every argument and statement can be directed to "lynch Helios".

Yes!

Helios Garabandia @ 29/1/2018 14:06

Christian @ 29/1/2018 14:04 Helios Garabandia @ 29/1/2018 14:59 I also can't wait until the postgame so I can figure out HOW THE SHIT my commute seemed to have no effect. because Wikey's mimic action didn't rely on actually visiting a person. But at the same time, me commuting should make me untargetable. I just don't see how the two go together.

This brings up the debate of what that means. Some mods will still let you do other things to a commuter (or hider) that aren't looking to kill them.

Angi @ 29/1/2018 14:03

Wish I could do more than love and be loved. Sex would be nice

You rang?

A vote thief doesn't seem very Town friendly, but why would Patrick come out and admit he stole Curtis' vote? Even if he's just trolling, that's bad for his teammates if he's scum. I'd vote Patrick again, but would almost rather settle the debate of whether two people of the same alignment could have the exact same ability.

Would Mafia have the ability to swap two people in this game? Tier admitting to chauffeuring Jamie and Curtis, but not the reason kinda makes me think he had ulterior motives that maybe he and his scum mates came up with. I don't see the benefit unless they wanted people to think that Curtis had something to do with Jamie dying, since the flavour said that Curtis ended up in Jamie's room. I also don't see the reason for not sharing why he swapped Curtis and Jamie, when there was nothing to go on, unless he was hiding something else.

Motley Lou @ 29/1/2018 14:07

im317 @ 29/1/2018 13:59 this not being a normal game for abilities is really starting to get annoying. lynching Helios doesn't resolve things unless he flips scum. if he flips town do we turn around and lynch Nav? he had no reason to counter claim so hes probably town. Zersch has jury duty, but that doesn't explain why he wasn't around Sunday. for an alternate vote i would rather Patrick over Sock because i feel like we have gotten something out of Patrick, where as we would be lynching Sock without him ever really saying anything. Zersch has jury duty? Is this a huge ass scum slip?

no. http://www.ndimforums.com/project_mayhem/thread.asp?threadid=7390331&pp=50#new

sorry if that's confusing, I just posted as the thoughts came to me. :P

Helios, you may have answered this already so if you have forgive me, but who are your top 3 reads?