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Congrats America. You have officially screwed the world!
 
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Post #436: 1st Mar 2017 1:57 PM 
And while we are at it, the US also spends 45% or so of the entire world's spending on medical research and development. So, in a sense the US is funding cheaper healthcare elsewhere.

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Post #437: 1st Mar 2017 2:30 PM 
Timmah @ 1/3/2017 13:57
And while we are at it, the US also spends 45% or so of the entire world's spending on medical research and development. So, in a sense the US is funding cheaper healthcare elsewhere.


The incentives on this get waaaay complicated and aren't driven solely on "we can make tons of money off of derps in the US and then give it free to the ROW". In fact, the same spending would likely occur given the R&D tax credit is now a permanent part of the code instead of an extender. In addition, our system is set up to incentivize using some technology for no other purpose than to be able to bill for it, even if it provide negligible or no real benefit. Again, the market failures involved here cause serious issues that drive up costs without helping outcomes.
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Post #439: 1st Mar 2017 3:10 PM 
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Post #440: 1st Mar 2017 3:18 PM 
Maddie @ 28/2/2017 21:33
Speaking of the ACA/healthcare: I have to get an endoscopy tomorrow and they just told me my insurance covers 90% of the procedure. The 10% I have to cover is $978.

This is why we need universal healthcare.

So without insurance it's almost 10000 dollars?

Yikes.
 
   
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Post #441: 1st Mar 2017 3:34 PM 
If I didn't have insurance I'd be spending $12000 a year for a single drug I need.
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Post #442: 1st Mar 2017 3:40 PM 
As far as universal healthcare is concerned, since it seems to be a hot topic, the way it works here is that if your condition is serious then the doctors obviously treat you right away. Either way, I guess this quote describes it best.

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Post #443: 1st Mar 2017 3:59 PM 
Herm @ 1/3/2017 13:18
Maddie @ 28/2/2017 21:33
Speaking of the ACA/healthcare: I have to get an endoscopy tomorrow and they just told me my insurance covers 90% of the procedure. The 10% I have to cover is $978.

This is why we need universal healthcare.

So without insurance it's almost 10000 dollars?

Yikes.


Yeah it was $13,000 before hospital adjustment charges. Insane.
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Post #444: 1st Mar 2017 8:34 PM 
Maddie @ 1/3/2017 15:59
Herm @ 1/3/2017 13:18
Maddie @ 28/2/2017 21:33
Speaking of the ACA/healthcare: I have to get an endoscopy tomorrow and they just told me my insurance covers 90% of the procedure. The 10% I have to cover is $978.

This is why we need universal healthcare.

So without insurance it's almost 10000 dollars?

Yikes.


Yeah it was $13,000 before hospital adjustment charges. Insane.


That's part of the problem. That's not an actual cost, and not at all what they'd charge without insurance. Medical providers charge obscene rates for the sole purpose of pinging the software used to formulate the basis for their contracts with insurance carriers, so that the contract prices for said procedure will be more the following year. It's a song and dance that benefits no one but docs and carriers.
 
   
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Post #445: 1st Mar 2017 9:17 PM 
Maddie @ 28/2/2017 23:27


Also this woman is a national treasure:



Meanwhile Marco Rubio is too scared to hold a town hall...



LOL she's great. I loved one where a teacher was talking too but idk which one it was.

 
   
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Post #446: 1st Mar 2017 9:21 PM 
JJ @ 1/3/2017 21:17

LOL she's great. I loved one where a teacher was talking too but idk which one it was.


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Post #447: 1st Mar 2017 9:23 PM 
Was that the one where she said - usually 2-3 weeks into the school year I know who's going to be "a problem" and then said...well it's been 2-3 weeks?
 
   
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Post #448: 1st Mar 2017 9:30 PM 
The woman who screamed in Mitch McConnell's face was also a treasure.
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Post #449: 1st Mar 2017 9:31 PM 
Maddie @ 1/3/2017 21:30
The woman who screamed in Mitch McConnell's face was also a treasure.


Ugh that creep deserves it. I liked the woman who asked him a question and then said - okay now I'll sit down and shut up like Elizabeth Warren.
 
   
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Post #450: 1st Mar 2017 9:57 PM 
JJ @ 1/3/2017 19:31
Maddie @ 1/3/2017 21:30
The woman who screamed in Mitch McConnell's face was also a treasure.


Ugh that creep deserves it. I liked the woman who asked him a question and then said - okay now I'll sit down and shut up like Elizabeth Warren.


Yeah that's who I was talking about! Love her.
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