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Ari
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| Post #31: 15th May 2016 7:02 AM | |
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Not sure I buy it. You gave no indication that you might target me yesterday, not even a hint, and Badger was the obvious option.
So in the scenario you successfully lured the mafia kill and died, people would automatically assume you had died luring Badger, the obvious suspect, not me.
How many shots did your role have and who else did you use it on? Sorry if I missed you posting this somewhere else already. |
Why would I indicate who I would use the role on? That way the mafia can counter it and not have that person do the kill.
The mafia would EXPECT me to use it on Badger. They wouldnt have had him do the kill, as they wouldnt be able to push my lynch today over him if I was dead. Badger would be auto lynched.
I cant simultaneously give the town my target and not have the mafia counter it. | |
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Ari
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| Post #32: 15th May 2016 7:06 AM | |
Angi, unlynch me.
I will explain why when you have. | |
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Angi
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| Post #33: 15th May 2016 7:13 AM | |
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I figured if he is mafia as I suspect, he wouldnt perform the kill as they would expect me to lure him. |
So...he was your top suspect but you didn't lure him in case he decided not to go out for the kill. Even though you could have lured him and guaranteed Redster would stay alive another day to get some crucial night results?
Hmmmmmmm
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Scum slip?
How do you know that me luring Badger would have guaranteed Redster staying alive? |
Because you're saying Badger must be scum and went out for the kill and you would have died by luring him lol You're throwing around so much shade on everyone Ari, you're not stopping to think carefully.
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Angi
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| Post #34: 15th May 2016 7:14 AM | |
ok........
##unlynch | Fuck You Cancer!!!
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wikey
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| Post #35: 15th May 2016 7:14 AM | |
Wait a sec
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I figured if he is mafia as I suspect, he wouldnt perform the kill as they would expect me to lure him. |
So...he was your top suspect but you didn't lure him in case he decided not to go out for the kill. Even though you could have lured him and guaranteed Redster would stay alive another day to get some crucial night results?
Hmmmmmmm
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Scum slip?
How do you know that me luring Badger would have guaranteed Redster staying alive? |
Um...by your own admission he was your top scum suspect then as he is now. And you claim your role is the decoy, which means you lure someone and essentially redirect them to you.
That is what you claimed.
And if I had your role, last night I would definitely have lured Badger, because if he was going to go out for the kill, I would want to guarantee they take out me rather than Redster, the obvious target.
Instead you lured me, leaving the only person who could still realistically get lynched over you as a question mark. | |
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Angi
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| Post #36: 15th May 2016 7:16 AM | |
As dumb and gullible as I have been, I always knew Buffy was scum and I always felt Mal was town, those feelings were 100% right, so I think from here on out I'm going with my gut read and not what scum tries to convince me to do. Wikey has proven his role. Not sure why that would be a role that scum would have. Timmah, can we get some numbers today please. I don't want to look back lol | Fuck You Cancer!!!
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Ari
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| Post #37: 15th May 2016 7:16 AM | |
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I figured if he is mafia as I suspect, he wouldnt perform the kill as they would expect me to lure him. |
So...he was your top suspect but you didn't lure him in case he decided not to go out for the kill. Even though you could have lured him and guaranteed Redster would stay alive another day to get some crucial night results?
Hmmmmmmm
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Scum slip?
How do you know that me luring Badger would have guaranteed Redster staying alive? |
Um...by your own admission he was your top scum suspect then as he is now. And you claim your role is the decoy, which means you lure someone and essentially redirect them to you.
That is what you claimed.
And if I had your role, last night I would definitely have lured Badger, because if he was going to go out for the kill, I would want to guarantee they take out me rather than Redster, the obvious target.
Instead you lured me, leaving the only person who could still realistically get lynched over you as a question mark. |
That is assuming Badger went out for the kill, which isnt a guaranteed thing. I am sure there is more than 1 scum left.
The mafia are expecting me to use it on Badger, why have him do the kill? That doesnt make any sense. Mafia want me alive.... | |
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Angi
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| Post #38: 15th May 2016 7:28 AM | |
Vanilla - 4 dead
Town - 11 dead
Third Party - 1 dead
Scum - 4 dead
7 alive
Did Timmah only know how many VT and TP?? I must be wasting my time looking then if he did lmfao | Fuck You Cancer!!!
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Angi
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| Post #39: 15th May 2016 7:29 AM | |
What's the usual ratio scum to town? | Fuck You Cancer!!!
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Ari
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| Post #40: 15th May 2016 7:29 AM | |
Okay. I am getting the suspicion that Wikey and Badger are the last scum. Why is Wikey suddenly coming to live now? Why is he pushing me, over Badger?
Wikey JUST SAID that if I had chosen Badger, I would have been guaranteed to save Redster. How the hell does he know that? He must have slipped and known they sent Badger out last night.
It takes 4 votes to lynch now. This suggests mafia have less than 4 votes, else they would probably have speed lynched someone and closed the day already.
Wikey and Badger have 3 votes between them. Meaning, if one of us votes wrong, they can speed lynch the target and end the day. Similarly how Vic and Herm speed lynched Angi a few games ago. Why end the day you say? Wouldnt that prove them to be scum?
Tomorrow, there are likely going to be 5 alive. Meaning 3 votes to lynch. Essentially meaning Badger and Wikey just have to beat the other three to win. Which isnt unlikely. They can win the game today.
So dont fucking vote me please, they can seriously end the game today and win.
##unlynch
Im taking my vote off Badger for now if by some incredible reason he isnt scum. Just in case. | |
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wikey
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| Post #41: 15th May 2016 7:34 AM | |
I'm not sure why you think there is two scum left tbh! | |
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wikey
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| Post #42: 15th May 2016 7:34 AM | |
I'm optimistic, 5 seems like a reasonable number | |
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wikey
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| Post #43: 15th May 2016 7:36 AM | |
I'm not even sold on you been that last scum Ari, it's between you AND Badger, but Badger isn't here to interrogate. You are, and your actions are confusing and should be questioned.
If you have nothing to hide, you shouldn't be taking issue with someone asking perfectly valid questions. | |
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wikey
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| Post #44: 15th May 2016 7:41 AM | |
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Wikey JUST SAID that if I had chosen Badger, I would have been guaranteed to save Redster. How the hell does he know that? He must have slipped and known they sent Badger out last night. |
Twisting my words.
By your own admission Badger is your top scum suspect. Redster was an obvious scum target.
Why wouldn't you lure your top scum suspect to divert their kill away from someone like Redster? You said yourself you wanted to lure Buffy to protect Redster.
Why didn't you want to do the same to Badger?
This makes no sense. Luring Badger was the obvious course of action last night if you are indeed telling the truth. A shady claim, the connection with Buffy, TIB saying he bought his claim and promptly dying. Luring him would have cleared things up immensely, because if someone other than you had been attacked it would have made Badger look a whole lot better.
Instead you chose...me.
And that's another thing. Say you lured me and you died. What then? Nobody would have had any way of knowing that you lured me. They would obviously make the assumption that you would have lured the obvious target Badger, and assumed he was scum and you had lured him.
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Ari
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| Post #45: 15th May 2016 7:41 AM | |
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I'm not sure why you think there is two scum left tbh! |
We have 4 dead mafia. 1 dead SK
If there is 1 mafia left:
6 / 27 = 22%
If there are 2 mafia left:
7 / 27 = 26%
If there are 3 mafia left:
8 / 27 = 30%
Scum / Town ratio is usually somewhere around 25% - 33%. I dont think Christian would have modkilled Nofo if we had 3 mafia left.
1 mafia left, with the ration being at 22%, seems low to me. I think most games are closer to 33% then 25%.
2 left seems most likely to me. | |
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