cirqueganesh hurdlecue:spin: @ 28/9/2017 14:59

vladykins @ 28/9/2017 14:35 cirqueganesh hurdlecue:spin: @ 28/9/2017 14:30 Igor @ 28/9/2017 14:12 Dude come on man, you're just being an SJW right now. Jump starting the sexual revolution is a pretty damn big deal. That's a huge fucking impact for the culture deal culture. Of course he's not going to be remember as an actor or a singer, that's a really dumb comparison to make. The Playboy bunny symbol is iconic and will forever be associated with him, it still comes up all the time in clothing (especially streetwear). You're really focusing on just the magazine when there's really more of a brand. no way man, no one remembers muddy waters therefore he had no lasting impact. Music artists still cover Muddy Waters to this day, bringing his name back over and over. In addition, musicians listen to his music and continue to go into the business to try to be like Muddy Waters. Do you think someone is going to go out twenty years from now and say "I'm doing this for Hef!" or "I'm gonna be the new Hef!" Once again, nobody is gonna even bring him up. how many hip-hop songs in the last year referenced muddy waters? checkmate.

Couldn't tell you, since I don't listen to hip hop. Maybe Igor knows?

I can tell you he is referenced numerous times by blues artists I've listened to and regularly covered.

I can also tell you that even earlier blues artist Blind Lemon Jefferson was covered by industrial band Laibach just a couple years ago.

You have yet too convince me.

I'll even go so far as to say this: If you remember Hef in 10 years, look me up and mention him to me. I'll in turn give you $10, or the equivalent in successor currency if the US collapses before then.

And you can use that $10 to go to the flea market and buy your first Playboy.

vladykins @ 28/9/2017 15:07

Couldn't tell you, since I don't listen to hip hop. Maybe Igor knows? I can tell you he is referenced numerous times by blues artists I've listened to and regularly covered. I can also tell you that even earlier blues artist Blind Lemon Jefferson was covered by industrial band Laibach just a couple years ago. You have yet too convince me. I'll even go so far as to say this: If you remember Hef in 10 years, look me up and mention him to me. I'll in turn give you $10, or the equivalent in successor currency if the US collapses before then.

by your own logic, if muddy waters has lasting impact because artists continue to reference him, then so too does hefner by your own logic BY YOUR OWN LOGIC

and you have yet to convince me you're not a racist child molester.

and i can guarantee you i won't forget who hefner is in a decade. holy shit. how about we add as many zeroes as you can afford to that bet.

vladykins @ 28/9/2017 15:10

And you can use that $10 to go to the flea market and buy your first Playboy.

and maybe a time machine so i can be old enough to want pornography in printed form.

cirqueganesh hurdlecue:spin: @ 28/9/2017 15:11

vladykins @ 28/9/2017 15:07 Couldn't tell you, since I don't listen to hip hop. Maybe Igor knows? I can tell you he is referenced numerous times by blues artists I've listened to and regularly covered. I can also tell you that even earlier blues artist Blind Lemon Jefferson was covered by industrial band Laibach just a couple years ago. You have yet too convince me. I'll even go so far as to say this: If you remember Hef in 10 years, look me up and mention him to me. I'll in turn give you $10, or the equivalent in successor currency if the US collapses before then. by your own logic, if muddy waters has lasting impact because artists continue to reference him, then so too does hefner by your own logic BY YOUR OWN LOGIC and you have yet to convince me you're not a racist child molester. and i can guarantee you i won't forget who hefner is in a decade. holy shit. how about we add as many zeroes as you can afford to that bet.

I just want you to have enough to buy your own Playboy then. Plus maybe a frame. It is a flea market, after all.

vladykins @ 28/9/2017 15:11

I just want you to have enough to buy your own Playboy then. Plus maybe a frame. It is a flea market, after all.

how about instead we just bet dicks

deal?

I can't bet what i don't have.

plus- what about the children?

vladykins @ 28/9/2017 15:16

I can't bet what i don't have. plus- what about the children?

if they're racist, you can go molest them

Why are you guys talking about an old football coach and why is he referenced in hip-hop songs?

Ben @ 28/9/2017 15:21

Why are you guys talking about an old football coach and why is he referenced in hip-hop songs?

Well, he didn't have as great of a football career after he left Pink Floyd.

vladykins @ 28/9/2017 15:26

Ben @ 28/9/2017 15:21 Why are you guys talking about an old football coach and why is he referenced in hip-hop songs? Well, he didn't have as great of a football career after he left Pink Floyd.

I found the Roger Daltrey guy.

Look guys- we even forgot who we were arguing about!

vladykins @ 28/9/2017 15:04

cirqueganesh hurdlecue:spin: @ 28/9/2017 13:54 vladykins @ 28/9/2017 13:43 In the end, The Hef is likely to be forgotten ten years from now, if it takes that long. His impact was immediate, but not lasting*. well, this part is untrue. dude made history in the word of publishing. Not lasting impact. Quick poll: When was the last time you bought a Playboy Magazine? If you haven't bought one in years, when was the last time you pulled one of them out? Or did you get rid of them all years ago? I see stacks of old Playboys at flea markets all the time and people just march past them. You have the occasional creepy collector dude who is trying to complete his collection, but most just sit there unsold forever.

Who would want to buy an old Playboy magazine from a flea market?

Christian @ 28/9/2017 15:57

vladykins @ 28/9/2017 15:04 cirqueganesh hurdlecue:spin: @ 28/9/2017 13:54 vladykins @ 28/9/2017 13:43 In the end, The Hef is likely to be forgotten ten years from now, if it takes that long. His impact was immediate, but not lasting*. well, this part is untrue. dude made history in the word of publishing. Not lasting impact. Quick poll: When was the last time you bought a Playboy Magazine? If you haven't bought one in years, when was the last time you pulled one of them out? Or did you get rid of them all years ago? I see stacks of old Playboys at flea markets all the time and people just march past them. You have the occasional creepy collector dude who is trying to complete his collection, but most just sit there unsold forever. Who would want to buy an old Playboy magazine from a flea market?

Apparently creepy collector dudes is my guess.

I wouldn't want to touch them. lol