Spin @ 13/1/2021 12:49

Christian @ 13/1/2021 10:44 Spin @ 13/1/2021 12:40 Christian @ 13/1/2021 10:36 explain the redirector thing to me, Spin. Make me believe. There are many different redirection-type abilities. I have no idea what was used (bus driver, redirector, etc.). All I know is I submitted an action to check Cody, and got a result. If Timmah/Farlig are being truthful, then I had to have been messed with in some way. do you THINK they're being truthful? I would believe Timmah more than Farlig, since I caused Farlig to be outted as the third member. However, I still believe that they are hiding something that may be important. That said, they aren't really a threat at the moment with the numbers we currently have. They may have to be dealt with, but not immediately.

I agree with this fully. Except that I have no issues with eliminating Farlig today lol

Reaper? Would you try to kill me last night, and then vote for me as leader to make it look like you'd never do a thing like that? :P

If we aren’t confident in the way the lynch is going later then I also have no issue using the day to rid the game of Farlig

Christian @ 13/1/2021 11:05

Timmah @ 13/1/2021 1:51 It’s possible spin is town and was actually redirected. We definitely jailed cody, so again what are we lying about? that we don't KNOW if you're lying about anything else. I find it weird that you jailing Cody last night has affected his ability to use a day action, when he's not currently in "jail". So why can he not use his day action today? That's where I'm getting a little bit tripped up.

It's part of the jailing, it blocks them the following night too. It doesn't say day, but I guess day/night is the same thing in this sense.

Here's the thing. We've been honest about what we have said so far, well since im317 stopped trying to defend himself on other grounds anyway. Sure, we have not 100% said everything, but that should be expected since we are trying to survive here! We are survivors, which is confirmed in the im317 flip. We also have the additional asshole win condition, which as Curtis has said is that we do not like apes so we have to jail a certain number of them. Some apes take more than one person to jail, fwiw. Cody took 2. I get that without full disclosure in im317's flip, there is natural tendency to be suspicious. I'm just doing what I can to allay those suspicions as much as I can.

From my perspective, mafia wants farlig and I lynched. They don't want us jailing/blocking them, especially if they are all apes. They don't want to have the day phase focus on them any more than necessary, so shifting lynches in our direction is something they want to do.

From my perspective, mafia could definitely have thought we jailed Christian with the way this day started. From there, spin had to say he color copped someone and just chose wrong with Cody because Cody seems pretty obviously town. At least to me. Of course, if mafia, spin knows exactly who is each color anyway. The claim yesterday seemed more like mafia role cop than actually being town color cop. Reaper and Stargate coming to spin's defense yesterday is something that was a bit suspicious as well. The screw up today that would have to involve a redirection action just to make sense compounds all of that. Occam's Razor says spin is mafia/blue. Could he be red? I guess, but I'd not bet on it.

Christian @ 13/1/2021 11:43

Personally, I should want to vote for one of the following: Herm, Curtis, Penner, Stargate Brian, Reaper, TT, Spin technically Jamie could have attacked me last night, but he could have pretended he was vanilla like TIB or something and acted like he didn't know I had used my action on him, which helped to confirm my action. Which I think if he were scum, he wouldn't want to do that. and if Spin was a killer, I might have died night 1 :P. But I have to believe that he somehow learned that Farlig was green, so we can remove him as my potential attacker, which leaves these 7, some more suspicious than others: Herm, Curtis, Penner, Stargate Brian, Reaper, TT

Spin could have easily attacked someone and learned that I was green from a scummate using the role he is claiming. Scummates regularly take credit for what others do.

I think I have no choice but to buy into Christian is town at this point.

Survived an attack
Provable action all three nights
Connected to TiB who I now have to consider the sexiest Townie alive
Connected to Nofo who discussed the red early (Didn't get modkilled for it, btw)

Timmah is the best Green rep. We'd like our dealings to be through him. lol

Did we ever start discussing why there were two kill attempts last night?

Penner @ 13/1/2021 12:58

I think I have no choice but to buy into Christian is town at this point. Survived an attack Provable action all three nights Connected to TiB who I now have to consider the sexiest Townie alive Connected to Nofo who discussed the red early (Didn't get modkilled for it, btw)

and you wouldn't know anything about who attacked me, would you? it's okay, I'm asking everyone who could have done it. :P

Penner @ 13/1/2021 12:59

Did we ever start discussing why there were two kill attempts last night?

they gathered enough ammo for two kills?

Christian @ 13/1/2021 12:00

Penner @ 13/1/2021 12:58 I think I have no choice but to buy into Christian is town at this point. Survived an attack Provable action all three nights Connected to TiB who I now have to consider the sexiest Townie alive Connected to Nofo who discussed the red early (Didn't get modkilled for it, btw) and you wouldn't know anything about who attacked me, would you? it's okay, I'm asking everyone who could have done it. :P

I know nothing except that someone sent me a note last night.

I don't remember yesterday well, I came to Spin's defense? About what?

Penner @ 13/1/2021 11:59

Did we ever start discussing why there were two kill attempts last night?

Christian if your role let’s someone use their action twice in one night (just a guess, no need to confirm), then maybe you should consider that whoever you used it on yesterday was able to kill twice or something. I dunno, just a theory

Christian @ 13/1/2021 12:01

Penner @ 13/1/2021 12:59 Did we ever start discussing why there were two kill attempts last night? they gathered enough ammo for two kills?

Fair. I am lost on the ammo and how it's gained.

Penner @ 13/1/2021 10:59

Did we ever start discussing why there were two kill attempts last night?

I've asked a couple of times, but everybody seems to be ignoring it.