And considering yesterday’s fiasco. It’s really easy for all of us to seriously consider inaccurate results. So I think he’s just hoping that helps

The only explanation I can come up with for 2 poisoned people is that we have a town... uh. What’s it called. Motivator? And they somehow picked someone that had a poison ability and they got to use it twice?

Or someone has a role if you visit them you get poisoned? But Primaye said he didn’t submit his action so that doesn’t make sense

Town:

Primate – Claimed Watcher

Lamps – Nexus, proven his role and he's been very townish all game. Nexus isn’t a guaranteed town role, but I could only see Lamps being third party if he isn’t town.

Farlig – Strongly hinted Doctor

Penner – Claimed Tracker

Cody – Claim is believable, and he came out with it before Primate claimed. But if we don’t get any further confirmation of it at some point I’ll be wondering about him. Still think the easier explanation is he is town. Could be third party.

Nav – I don’t think he is scum as I believe scum were hoping to frame him N1 with their attack on Zach. Potential SK suspect, but I think I know what role he's hinting at so I'm leaning more town. Of course, there's a possibility he is the scum variation of the role I think he's hinting. I agree with him not claiming today, but I think he'll have to at some point if we are getting nowhere.

Unsure

TIB – Came in today and said he might claim for no reason. Was getting town vibes on TIB before this, and he advocated for a lynch on Brian of Buffy on Day 2.

Timmah – I don’t think he is Mafia but he could be SK

Mittens – Pushed the Brian lynch hard, though hasn’t contributed much since it seems to me. Another SK candidate...

IM – hinted at Vanilla, has barely contributed since.

Scummy

Josh – Honestly he appears scummier to me every time he posts. Maybe I’ve got tunnel vision on him, but I feel very strongly that Josh is scum.

Cavin – Visited Rodney last night according to Penner. If scum has a redirector, there’s a possibility they redirected Penner to someone last night, and that fucked with his result. Cavin’s defence came across as very genuine and believable to me. However, Bodyguard is a typical scum claim, and if Farlig can doctor every night without restriction, I’ll be less inclined to believe it. Also his post on Day 2 about been blocked doesn't seem compatible with what he is claiming.

Herm – Herm is giving me scum vibes. Feel like he is only pretending to scum hunt.

Cody @ 10/8/2019 5:56

The only explanation I can come up with for 2 poisoned people is that we have a town... uh. What’s it called. Motivator? And they somehow picked someone that had a poison ability and they got to use it twice? Or someone has a role if you visit them you get poisoned? But Primaye said he didn’t submit his action so that doesn’t make sense

There was an SK role in an ATTWS game that allowed someone to poison two players every night. The following day, one of them would be saved by a poison doctor.

I believe this is what happened last night, so we should be seeing one of Primate or Farlig survive today.

It's no coincidence that the claimed watcher and all but claimed Doctor were the targets.

The trouble with this is how does this game have both a standard night killing SK, and a poisoner?

I think this was a one shot mafia role.

I really hope there is an antidote role. There must be.

Wikey I agree with all of your list. I would swap Timmah for Cody but the rest is spot on

So you think mafia performed a kill AND poisoned? Ugly.

But that’s an interesting role/ability

Cody @ 10/8/2019 6:06

So you think mafia performed a kill AND poisoned? Ugly. But that’s an interesting role/ability

I really don't know, but I believe that more than an SK/SK team who can kill and poison.

Maybe there is a third party boogeyman in play as well as the SK/s?

All we can say is that every night there's been something odd about the night results. The first two it was the amount of roleblocks/unsuccessfuls, and last night it was the amount of kills + the poisonings.

I am very much look forward to learning the source of all this fuckery at the end of the game.

Wikey, thoughts on the SK duo theory and how Calvin could be one of them?

My thoughts on Cavin as SK: Cavin could only be SK if he is part of a duo who can choose who goes out for the kill each night.

If there is a duo, they can only kill on the nights they are assigned imo, whether they are successful or not.

The SK duo thing is a pretty big assumption to be making in the first place. We'd have to assume that is correct, and then on top of that assume that this duo can pick and choose who goes out which night.

I only put the duo theory out there because it seemed to fit with some of the town roles that have flipped, and also because I don't want us getting complacent. The simpler explanation is that there is just one SK, and we should act as if that is the case until we are given a reason to believe otherwise.

In which case, Cavin can't be SK if Penner's N1 results are accurate.

So he could only be Mafia.

Farlig can confirm:

I’m the doctor.
My role uses attacks.
I have the ability to save either primate or I today.

So...you either martyr yourself or condemn Primate to death.

Spicy

Poor Primate. Given a fatal STD from a robot clone of himself, and possibly about to be refused the cure by Farlig

Farlig, did you have sex with yourself last night too?