VOTE COUNT DAY 4

Jamie (4/12): TiB, Ahoda, Mittens, Primate, Ben
Christian (2/12): Vic, JJ
Spin (1/12): Mittens
Sock (1/12): Sock
Mittens (1/12): Sock, Jamie
JJ (0/12): Lamps
Ahoda (0/12): Timmah
Dadd (0/12): JJ, Spin, Curtis, Ahoda

farlig @ 15/8/2017 15:18

JJ @ 15/8/2017 14:14 If you're going to fish for roles, why fish for Mason or Hated Townie? And Strongman... why couldn't there be one? If he listed doc, watcher, role blocker then people would be saying - oh well that would be obvious. Could still be a mafia role but I don't think he's lying about the roles he listed. Dadd is that you? I was only referring to fishing in connection with the mason role. Not saying there couldn't be any of those but strongman is normally a mafia role and hated townie is a :meh: role to go fishing for. Only one of those really would be beneficial for mafia to confirm through fishing if you stop and think about it.

Hey, why are you calling me Dadd!?!? :pissed:

I'm just saying I believe his list but I don't think it was necessarily to fish.

JJ @ 15/8/2017 14:22

farlig @ 15/8/2017 15:18 JJ @ 15/8/2017 14:14 If you're going to fish for roles, why fish for Mason or Hated Townie? And Strongman... why couldn't there be one? If he listed doc, watcher, role blocker then people would be saying - oh well that would be obvious. Could still be a mafia role but I don't think he's lying about the roles he listed. Dadd is that you? I was only referring to fishing in connection with the mason role. Not saying there couldn't be any of those but strongman is normally a mafia role and hated townie is a :meh: role to go fishing for. Only one of those really would be beneficial for mafia to confirm through fishing if you stop and think about it. Hey, why are you calling me Dadd!?!? :pissed: I'm just saying I believe his list but I don't think it was necessarily to fish.

Because of this discussion.

JJ @ 15/8/2017 2:27

Lamps @ 15/8/2017 2:50 JJ @ 15/8/2017 7:46 lol - he said that because he literally blocked my posts in the last game I played I'm not doubting he actually did put you on ignore, but at the same time it looks like he was hinting about his night action. Why say such a thing out of nowhere? Because he's petty. I refused to engage with his crap this game and just basically ignored him even though he wanted to continue to hold a grudge. You're reallly reaching, and you always think I'm scum. You're wrong. His comment was personal, not game related. Also, Dadd's comment was not a good point. I said I agreed with most of Primate's post when he listed multiple people and Dadd took two of those people and made an assumption.

Farlig, sounds like we have a misunderstanding and you are calling me Dadd for not getting what you are saying lol. Is that correct?

Why are people ignoring Christian?

Vic @ 15/8/2017 19:26

Why are people ignoring Christian?

I'm not ignoring, what don't you like about him? I'm all ears.

thinking about it some more and i could see Jamie having a real list as scum either with the role hes claiming or as a role cop.

##lynch Jamie

Same for you JJ, why Christian?

I think he's scum

JJ @ 15/8/2017 13:22

farlig @ 15/8/2017 15:18 JJ @ 15/8/2017 14:14 If you're going to fish for roles, why fish for Mason or Hated Townie? And Strongman... why couldn't there be one? If he listed doc, watcher, role blocker then people would be saying - oh well that would be obvious. Could still be a mafia role but I don't think he's lying about the roles he listed. Dadd is that you? I was only referring to fishing in connection with the mason role. Not saying there couldn't be any of those but strongman is normally a mafia role and hated townie is a :meh: role to go fishing for. Only one of those really would be beneficial for mafia to confirm through fishing if you stop and think about it. Hey, why are you calling me Dadd!?!? :pissed: I'm just saying I believe his list but I don't think it was necessarily to fish.

I don't believe his list but, I don't think it's fishing as much as spreading disinformation.

Vic @ 15/8/2017 19:29

I think he's scum

Well i'm sold.

Vic @ 15/8/2017 13:29

I think he's scum

Because?

also i just got caught up from page 6, and i'm just going to say STOP IT with the theories that i'm scum!!!

If I was scum I would have played that gun thing entirely differently instead of breadcrumbing all day. THOUGH I will admit I was going to shoot shadow over Maddie until Zersch confirmed his results.

But when I shot her I'm pretty sure she wasn't leading for the day. I think it was shadow or vladdy, though I'm pretty sure there weren't many votes either way that day.

So I dunno why my gun worked but the lie detection didn't. It seems a little fishy!

BUT I noticed when I was still only softclaiming the gun that no one was really acknowledging what I had, or acting like they knew what was going on. I'd say usually if you trust a fellow townie enough to give them a gun, you'd give them some sort of hint as to how to use it or at least that they're in on the joke with you. A liked post, or a joke, or something. And there was none of that. I gave PLENTY of openings for it too (:

It's part of why I was so paranoid that it was going to blow my own face off (along ith the fact that we already had a probable dayvig, why would both a vig and a gunsmith be town aligned?), and why i made sure to be clear about what I was doing with the gun and when, because I didn't trust it.


SO, theory, assuming spin's not just full of shit, which is definitely possible (but i don't feel like it's the case from the way he handled the gift): Maybe the gun is the result of a mafia jack or inventor, and they decided to hand out a good gun to a random townie as a way to legitimize their gifts.

I think in most cases it would be for their benefit. A townie more than likely shoots another townie, a kill is added to the game. If the townie announces things, they look bad for a misfire. Also the gun's mechanics seemed to imply I was going to be secretly shooting the gun, but I was mentioned in flavor (but how could i not be tbh), so that's a possible way it may have been "trapped."

And in the worst case scenario for scum, I kill scum with the gun, the lie detector becomes a lot more trustworthy and leads to more chaos (and the probably death of another townie) when it turns out to be full of shit, and either the person with the lie detector or the person with the gun or both look fishy and all attention gets diverted there.

SO ANYWAY THAT'S MY BIG POST OF THE DAY

now goodbye bbs

Ben @ 15/8/2017 15:27

Same for you JJ, why Christian?

He's been very quiet this game. Very unlike him, since he's usually one of the top town scum-hunters imo. Most of his posts seem to be filler. Also, the fact DS listed him as scummy and could've blocked him N2 doesn't change my mind.

also sure i like this idea

##lynch christian