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Post #361: 10th Aug 2019 5:30 AM 
Believing scum!Cody's ridiculous made up claim. Sigh. Freaking Europeans
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Post #362: 10th Aug 2019 5:34 AM 
Lamps @ 9/8/2019 23:35
Hiw many roles are there that show visitors? It only refers to a watcher basically?


Tracker is an investigative role too. So does that mean if Penner tracked Cody he would get the result that Cody visited everyone alive?
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Post #363: 10th Aug 2019 5:38 AM 
Prince Navneeta @ 10/8/2019 5:34
Lamps @ 9/8/2019 23:35
Hiw many roles are there that show visitors? It only refers to a watcher basically?


Tracker is an investigative role too. So does that mean if Penner tracked Cody he would get the result that Cody visited everyone alive?

I suppose it would, yes.
 
   
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Post #364: 10th Aug 2019 5:39 AM 
Lamps @ 10/8/2019 1:20
Cavin as SK doesn’t make much sense btw since we had 2 kills N1 with Ahoda blocked, and he said he was unsuccessful (which may be a lie, but doesn’t really look like one).

So then do all of you voters think he is mafia?


This is a decent point. We also have the info of Penner tracking Calvin to nowhere on N1. Hmmm.

This would fit with Wikey's theory of an SK team though. If Calvin is the even night SK and someone else is the Odd night SK. Or if they share a forum and can decide who goes when but just can't go back to back? And N2 was considered a failed action so Calvin got to go out on N3?

The only problem with this is Calvin wasn't seen at Lamps' So in this scenario SK(s) chose to No Kill on N2

Is there a reason we ruled out Cody as SK?
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Post #365: 10th Aug 2019 5:40 AM 
Nav, could you lay out exactly why you think Cody is likely scum?

And do you think he's Mafia or SK?

Mafia doesn't make much sense to me, but SK might.

Or are you just trolling?
 
   
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Post #366: 10th Aug 2019 5:40 AM 
“You will always show up on investigative reports that may show visitors”

Is what my PM says
 
   
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Post #367: 10th Aug 2019 5:41 AM 
Wikey. Nav just enjoys getting me lynched. That’s all this is lol.
 
   
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Post #368: 10th Aug 2019 5:44 AM 
wikeyb9m3bek @ 10/8/2019 2:40
Nav, could you lay out exactly why you think Cody is likely scum?

And do you think he's Mafia or SK?

Mafia doesn't make much sense to me, but SK might.

Or are you just trolling?


I don't believe his claim at all. It was convenient and happened on the night with the Lightning rod. So it felt like a pre emptive defense because he was getting pressure the earlier days. Before that it was partly trolling partly just me applying pressure because scum!Cody cracks easily.
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Post #369: 10th Aug 2019 5:47 AM 
N1:

Ahoda - Attempted to kill ????? (blocked)
Primate - Blocked
Cavin - Targeted ???? (unsuccessful?)

Penner - Tracked Cavin, he didn't visit anyone
Nav - ????

Zach - Killed by Mafia

Curtis - Killed by SK (or odd night SK)

N2:

Lamps - Activated Nexus

Farlig - Redirected to Lamps
Primate - Redirected to Lamps
Farlig - Redirected to Lamps
Penner - Redirected to Lamps
Buffy - Redirected to Lamps (Mafia attack?)
Cody - Seen due to role

Josh - Targeted ???? (unsuccessful)
Nav - Targeted ???? (unsuccessful)
Mittens - Targeted Penner (unsuccessful)


N3:

Penner - Tracked Cavin, says he visited Rodney

Ahoda - Killed by Mafia? (seems more likely to me)

Spin - Killed by Ahoda

Rodney - Killed by SK (or odd night SK)

Primate and Farlig - Poisoned

^ Feel free to copy this and fill in anything I might have missed. I'm trying to understand what the hell happened over the first few nights with all the rolebocks/unsuccessful actions.

I had a theory yesterday but it's crazy and can't be true. My theory was that there is a gate type role in play which could place a barrier between all the players. Anyone who targets a player on the other side of that barrier would be unsuccessful.

If you played a certain ATTWS game with the gate role, you know what I'm getting at.

I wasn't going to share this because it seems so crazy and unrealistic, but then there was another ATTWS call back today with Primate and Farlig announcing they were poisoned.

I don't know how else to explain all the blocks, especially on a night when the nexus was used. I welcome alternative theories
 
   
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Post #370: 10th Aug 2019 5:47 AM 
It’s not like I knew that Nexus thing happened. I laid out my reasonings for claiming. Nav is just being nav.
 
   
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Post #371: 10th Aug 2019 5:50 AM 
The one thing I can think of that would explain Penner having incorrect results is a Master of Disguise. Someone pretended to be Calvin at night and so Penner got that result. I don't really buy a redirect on Penner tbh
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Post #372: 10th Aug 2019 5:50 AM 
Prince Navneeta @ 10/8/2019 5:44
wikeyb9m3bek @ 10/8/2019 2:40
Nav, could you lay out exactly why you think Cody is likely scum?

And do you think he's Mafia or SK?

Mafia doesn't make much sense to me, but SK might.

Or are you just trolling?


I don't believe his claim at all. It was convenient and happened on the night with the Lightning rod. So it felt like a pre emptive defense because he was getting pressure the earlier days. Before that it was partly trolling partly just me applying pressure because scum!Cody cracks easily.

Fair enough. I still lean to believing him personally, but it's worth keeping him in mind. I could only really see him being SK.

If he is though, that means there were two attacks on Lamps and he survived with only one doctor protect. We don't know how strong the doctor protects are though so it's possible.
 
   
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Post #373: 10th Aug 2019 5:53 AM 
I just think Cavin is lying tbh. That quote from D2 of him getting weird results or whatever just doesn’t make full sense. You shouldn’t really get back results or whatever with a BG so lol.

I will say tho, that cavin is hella convincing.
 
   
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Post #374: 10th Aug 2019 5:53 AM 
Pretty sure I know what Nav is hinting at. Yeah, better to not claim actually
 
   
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Post #375: 10th Aug 2019 5:54 AM 
Cody @ 10/8/2019 5:53
I just think Cavin is lying tbh. That quote from D2 of him getting weird results or whatever just doesn’t make full sense. You shouldn’t really get back results or whatever with a BG so lol.

I will say tho, that cavin is hella convincing.

I want Cavin to address that post and explain exactly what he meant.

After that I'll consider whether I want to lynch him or not.
 
   
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