Okay, I had a bit of time left, I read Vlady's post.

I will read the Atlantic article.

But something tells me none of us are going change our minds on this subject. Which is fine. This is a touchy subject for a lot of people (no pun intended). And we have strong opinions on this either side of the issue.

Tbf, it does seem that we are all misunderstanding each others position a fair bit.

Wikey @ 3/11/2017 11:22

Okay, I had a bit of time left, I read Vlady's post. I will read the Atlantic article. But something tells me none of us are going change our minds on this subject. Which is fine. This is a touchy subject for a lot of people (no pun intended). And we have strong opinions on this either side of the issue. Tbf, it does seem that we are all misunderstanding each others position a fair bit.

For what it's worth, I personally have no issue with your comments (except that I disagree with some of them lol) because I think you are being honest and thoughtful with your posts. I can disagree with you but still respect that you took the time to explain your viewpoint.

JJ @ 3/11/2017 11:19

Wikey I'm not going to quote you because I am too lazy right now :P but a "hand on the knee" again is just a small example and I know you're referring to a specific thing but let me just elaborate. A woman's boss or co-worker etc puts his hand on her shoulder or on her knee during a meeting and she feels uncomfortable but also feels unsure of what to do, what to say. Thinks maybe he just won't do it again. Wonders if she is overreacting, etc. She might never say anything or she might. And she should feel empowered to say something, absolutely! But that is not always the case for various reasons. This is not okay whether she says stop or no or keeps quiet. Just keep your f'ing hands off people unless you know for sure it's welcome.

Yeah, a boss touching his employee's knee is wrong. I agree with you there. That would be taking advantage of his position and putting his employee in a position they should never be put in.

It is worth mentioning that in the example cited so many times in this thread, the UK Defense Minister was accused by a journalist, not somebody who worked for him. So it's a big difference imo.

Nofo @ 3/11/2017 10:33

Curtis @ 3/11/2017 10:32 Nofo @ 3/11/2017 9:23 I think this thread is proof that we need moderation around here. This isn't a welcoming community. Great work Brian Maybe actually have rules. You're the problem here.

zzz

STOP THIS SHIT. ENFORCE FUCKING RULES.

JJ @ 3/11/2017 11:25

Wikey @ 3/11/2017 11:22 Okay, I had a bit of time left, I read Vlady's post. I will read the Atlantic article. But something tells me none of us are going change our minds on this subject. Which is fine. This is a touchy subject for a lot of people (no pun intended). And we have strong opinions on this either side of the issue. Tbf, it does seem that we are all misunderstanding each others position a fair bit. For what it's worth, I personally have no issue with your comments (except that I disagree with some of them lol) because I think you are being honest and thoughtful with your posts. I can disagree with you but still respect that you took the time to explain your viewpoint.

A ray of sunshine in an otherwise rather ugly thread.

Thanks Buffy! I have no issue with you either, nor anybody who disagrees with me.

I like all of you very much

This thread had everything tho...

Kevin Spacey, the Igor/Zersch standoff, page long debates about harassment, spicy memes, and a Concerned Mother appearance.

Pretty insane thread you started here Curtis Page.

Nofo @ 3/11/2017 10:28

STOP THIS SHIT. ENFORCE FUCKING RULES.

Rule number 1 Tits or GTFO.

Chris25 @ 3/11/2017 11:33

Nofo @ 3/11/2017 10:28 STOP THIS SHIT. ENFORCE FUCKING RULES. Rule number 1 Tits or GTFO.

Like this, anywhere else this shit would not fly.

Kevin Spacey, what a dick!

If we had any sorta rules you would’ve been banned 4 years ago Nofo

Curtis @ 3/11/2017 10:35

If we had any sorta rules you would’ve been banned 4 years ago Nofo

Damn, start retroactively enforcing rules please.

Chris25 @ 3/11/2017 10:33

Nofo @ 3/11/2017 10:28 STOP THIS SHIT. ENFORCE FUCKING RULES. Rule number 1 Tits or GTFO.

This may be the first time and last time I ever say this:

CHRIS IS RIGHT

Curtis @ 3/11/2017 11:35

If we had any sorta rules you would’ve been banned 4 years ago Nofo

At least Igor and Chris wouldn't be huge cunts.

Ben @ 3/11/2017 10:34

Kevin Spacey, what a dick!

what a "dick" indeed!