I don't think anyone is ever going to touch Merc if he is vig. Mafia would have no reason to kill him if they can control his kill, and an SK would want the extra kill to help numbers dwindle. And if the Mafia were to manipulate Merc's kill onto the SK, no one would even know unless Mafia outed themselves so an SK wouldn't be worried about that.

Zersch @ 6/3/2017 10:54

I don't think anyone is ever going to touch Merc if he is vig. Mafia would have no reason to kill him if they can control his kill, and an SK would want the extra kill to help numbers dwindle. And if the Mafia were to manipulate Merc's kill onto the SK, no one would even know unless Mafia outed themselves so an SK wouldn't be worried about that.

Right, but if Mafia is re-directing him, they are touching him and, unless it's a ninja re-director, that could be watched. Bussing would be a different story.

Zersch, are you the feathered mafia bus driver?

Buffy @ 6/3/2017 10:57

Zersch, are you the feathered mafia bus driver?

No ma'am.

Can't drive a bus with these little wings.

Buffy @ 6/3/2017 10:52

Buffy @ 6/3/2017 10:46 Agree with this and this isn't exactly your "standard" game. I don't think kills are always going to be the same # every night so Rose being blocked N1 means little to me. And just to clarify, if it was someone else that was blocked I might think more of it but I do not think Rose is scum. You can't just assume that since someone was blocked, all other info about them goes out the window. Rose would not have stuck her neck out to save Lurchy d1 if they were scum-partners or killers. One flips and there goes that risky move. She's not an idiot.

There could be all kinds of reasons. They could be lover-killers and if he got lynched, she died as well.

I even stated originally it was a crazy theory- and not my first crazy theory this game. As a nilla, I have no option but to rely on stuff in game and what I can tease out, especially reactions. It's one of the reasons I'm 99.9% certain on you being town: your reaction to my muppetmaster theory was near zero.

Rose's reaction is actually the most scummy reaction I could think of to what I admitted was a crazy theory, which is why I'm starting to think there might be something to it. There are hundreds of ways she could have reacted: totally ignored it, laughed and said no, said her role doesn't have her leave, etc. What was her reaction? Super strong denial and attempting to undercut me top undercut the theory. It's this reaction more than anything that has me thinking there is waaaaay more to her and Lurchy than neighborliness.

Right now we know zero about Rose except she and Lurchy both claim to be town together and that she was blocked N1.

Just keep it in mind when I flip 100% telling the truth about my role. There's more here to know about, especially when she so desperately indicates he's helping when Lurchy has done almost jack shit so far this game.

vlady who are your scum reads besides rose and/or lurch.

vladykins @ 6/3/2017 11:03

Right now we know zero about Rose except she and Lurchy both claim to be town together and that she was blocked N1. Just keep it in mind when I flip 100% telling the truth about my role. There's more here to know about, especially when she so desperately indicates he's helping when Lurchy has done almost jack shit so far this game.

Well, I think you're just tunneling on her and it's weird.

JohnnyDollar @ 6/3/2017 16:52

Herm @ 6/3/2017 8:35 Who has been blocked so far? Farlig and Rose N1? Dylan and Vlady N2? Spin N3? Nofo owning up to Rose and Vlady suggests a mafia roleblocker most likely. If a kill was blocked N1, it's more likely to be Farlig than Rose imo. Anything in particular making you lean garlic over rose? Rose has claimed town and was confirmed by Lurch. But it was done kind of sus so to me that leans me a little more to not believe it. But it is there so I can't ignore it.

Farlig being rescued from his frozen state on Day 2 really confused me, but I have no knowledge of the shows so maybe you guys understand it better.

I just feel like it makes more sense for Farlig to be scum than Rose, since Lurch is there to back her up.

Honestly I think Vlad is scum because of the same reason he thinks Angi could be, because of the way he's reacting. He's kind of all over the place at the moment, it seems like he's trying to fish for whatever he can at the point, when it seems like he's not even some people's top target so it seems unnecessary.

Other people like Herm, Maddie, Angi just seem to be sticking to the status quo that they have been all game. In this instance it feels like that tactic is more townish than the tactic that Vlady is using.

I also very much hate the Rose is scum theory. It's quite the reach. I agree with Herm actually, if you think Rose is scum because of a N1 RB then why is Farlig getting a pass?

Rose has someone vouching for her, Farlig doesn't.

Herm @ 6/3/2017 11:05

JohnnyDollar @ 6/3/2017 16:52 Herm @ 6/3/2017 8:35 Who has been blocked so far? Farlig and Rose N1? Dylan and Vlady N2? Spin N3? Nofo owning up to Rose and Vlady suggests a mafia roleblocker most likely. If a kill was blocked N1, it's more likely to be Farlig than Rose imo. Anything in particular making you lean garlic over rose? Rose has claimed town and was confirmed by Lurch. But it was done kind of sus so to me that leans me a little more to not believe it. But it is there so I can't ignore it. Farlig being rescued from his frozen state on Day 2 really confused me, but I have no knowledge of the shows so maybe you guys understand it better. I just feel like it makes more sense for Farlig to be scum than Rose, since Lurch is there to back her up.

I'd love to know how Badger managed to save Farlig.

Didn't rose say her role was pretty useless? If so, and it could be proven by things we currently know are in play but no one has claimed yet, we could shut down the tunneling quickly (or get a cc to prove vlady's theory may be correct).

Zersch @ 6/3/2017 11:13

Herm @ 6/3/2017 11:05 JohnnyDollar @ 6/3/2017 16:52 Herm @ 6/3/2017 8:35 Who has been blocked so far? Farlig and Rose N1? Dylan and Vlady N2? Spin N3? Nofo owning up to Rose and Vlady suggests a mafia roleblocker most likely. If a kill was blocked N1, it's more likely to be Farlig than Rose imo. Anything in particular making you lean garlic over rose? Rose has claimed town and was confirmed by Lurch. But it was done kind of sus so to me that leans me a little more to not believe it. But it is there so I can't ignore it. Farlig being rescued from his frozen state on Day 2 really confused me, but I have no knowledge of the shows so maybe you guys understand it better. I just feel like it makes more sense for Farlig to be scum than Rose, since Lurch is there to back her up. I'd love to know how Badger managed to save Farlig.

Me too. I was thinking it was Badger posting his character that did it but who knows?

The only way I could possibly see anti-town Rose breaking her neck on D1 to save Lurch from a lynch is if they were linked like Lovers. But even I'm not going to entertain that theory.

And I'll entertain some dumb shit.