Grunkle Drrr @ 6/3/2017 9:45

Vladdy how do you feel about Primate? He seems to be convinced that you are town.

While I can't confirm anything on his role, he does seem to understand what i knew would happen yesterday: that scum would skate today because the focus would be on me- which means he's entertaining that this will be a distraction helping scum. So I lean town on him.

If I'm lynched today (which is the likely possibility) then my posts from today should be given a good look when we see I'm 100% telling the truth. Which is more than I can say for all those responding to me.

vladykins @ 6/3/2017 10:02

Grunkle Drrr @ 6/3/2017 9:45 Vladdy how do you feel about Primate? He seems to be convinced that you are town. While I can't confirm anything on his role, he does seem to understand what i knew would happen yesterday: that scum would skate today because the focus would be on me- which means he's entertaining that this will be a distraction helping scum. So I lean town on him. If I'm lynched today (which is the likely possibility) then my posts from today should be given a good look when we see I'm 100% telling the truth. Which is more than I can say for all those responding to me.

"Well I don't really want to say anything about Primate, so I'm going to turn this back around on the people in trying to paying in a bad light instead of actually responding"

Buffy @ 6/3/2017 9:56

If you were mafia you'd target part of the Rose/Lurchy pair? Wait, I thought you just said Rose could be responsible for a kill but now you sound like you believe she's town. Which is it? Also, Lamps read on D2 was me - he hasn't been so great at his reads this game. :P

If I were GF, I would have already targeted some "confirmed town". Rose and Lurchy fall into this category based on the neighbor claim.

Lamps read was also based on DS's ability being true, so he was working off of what information he had. I thought DS's ability was bullshit and was right. Lamps reads tend to be really good a few days into the game, making him a target early on.

Grunkle Drrr @ 6/3/2017 10:05

vladykins @ 6/3/2017 10:02 Grunkle Drrr @ 6/3/2017 9:45 Vladdy how do you feel about Primate? He seems to be convinced that you are town. While I can't confirm anything on his role, he does seem to understand what i knew would happen yesterday: that scum would skate today because the focus would be on me- which means he's entertaining that this will be a distraction helping scum. So I lean town on him. If I'm lynched today (which is the likely possibility) then my posts from today should be given a good look when we see I'm 100% telling the truth. Which is more than I can say for all those responding to me. "Well I don't really want to say anything about Primate, so I'm going to turn this back around on the people in trying to paying in a bad light instead of actually responding"

What part of "I lean town on him" isn't clear to you?

Again, you seem to be overreacting to a crazy theory thrown out by the mafia GF/cult leader. What are you even worried about? Or are you concerned that when I flip and I'm exactly what I say that it will look bad for you?

As has been noted- someone surviving a kill attempt is suspicious. That's standard play here. But it's also suspicious when someone is rolebocked when there is a missing kill. Are you suggesting people shouldn't be suspicious when this would be standard procedure ordinarily?

I'm concerned because you've already survived one day where you should have been lynched, and now you're trying to get someone I know for certain is town lynched in order to disprove a bad theory. I'm trying to make sure that people don't actually buy into this, because it has all the tappings of a plan that makes sense until you actually think about it.

Besides, I'm not 100% convinced you're scum, only 95.5%. That's why I'm on Primate instead.

vladykins @ 6/3/2017 10:10

As has been noted- someone surviving a kill attempt is suspicious. That's standard play here. But it's also suspicious when someone is rolebocked when there is a missing kill. Are you suggesting people shouldn't be suspicious when this would be standard procedure ordinarily?

It's really not (:

Night 1 is often a night with a lot of holding back, or targeting random people with random times to see what sticks. I don't expect the kills that night to be consistent. Even if that alone was suspicious, being blocked would be the only evidence in play.

Grunkle Drrr @ 6/3/2017 8:20

vladykins @ 6/3/2017 10:10 As has been noted- someone surviving a kill attempt is suspicious. That's standard play here. But it's also suspicious when someone is rolebocked when there is a missing kill. Are you suggesting people shouldn't be suspicious when this would be standard procedure ordinarily? It's really not (: Night 1 is often a night with a lot of holding back, or targeting random people with random times to see what sticks. I don't expect the kills that night to be consistent. Even if that alone was suspicious, being blocked would be the only evidence in play.

Just want to clarify because I think I'm confused. Are you saying if someone is RB'd and there is a missing kill that it's NOT suspicious?

I think I see what you're saying that perhaps a Vig would hold back D1, but Merc already said he didn't. So unless we have another town vig then you're banking on an SK or third party or mafia not killing which I think is silly.

But then again I'm used to playing on FFA where everyone kills every time they have a chance.

Who has been blocked so far?

Farlig and Rose N1?
Dylan and Vlady N2?
Spin N3?

Nofo owning up to Rose and Vlady suggests a mafia roleblocker most likely.

If a kill was blocked N1, it's more likely to be Farlig than Rose imo.

Grunkle Drrr @ 6/3/2017 10:20

vladykins @ 6/3/2017 10:10 As has been noted- someone surviving a kill attempt is suspicious. That's standard play here. But it's also suspicious when someone is rolebocked when there is a missing kill. Are you suggesting people shouldn't be suspicious when this would be standard procedure ordinarily? It's really not (: Night 1 is often a night with a lot of holding back, or targeting random people with random times to see what sticks. I don't expect the kills that night to be consistent. Even if that alone was suspicious, being blocked would be the only evidence in play.

Agree with this and this isn't exactly your "standard" game. I don't think kills are always going to be the same # every night so Rose being blocked N1 means little to me.

I don't think there is even standard play "here" except that GF and SK usually have a BP ability so when someone survives a kill, they're looked at. I do think that Merc's target surviving two nights in a row make it less likely that you and Maddie both survived a kill and more likely that Merc was re-directed or that you were bussed with someone. If mafia has a re-director role of course they're using it on him. And if they have a bus-driver role, I would think they would use it on one of their own and a likely townie. Also surprised no watcher has been on Merc at all. Or maybe they have but since Merc didn't die, they didn't say anything.

Buffy @ 6/3/2017 10:46

Agree with this and this isn't exactly your "standard" game. I don't think kills are always going to be the same # every night so Rose being blocked N1 means little to me.

And just to clarify, if it was someone else that was blocked I might think more of it but I do not think Rose is scum. You can't just assume that since someone was blocked, all other info about them goes out the window. Rose would not have stuck her neck out to save Lurchy d1 if they were scum-partners or killers. One flips and there goes that risky move. She's not an idiot.

Herm @ 6/3/2017 8:35

Who has been blocked so far? Farlig and Rose N1? Dylan and Vlady N2? Spin N3? Nofo owning up to Rose and Vlady suggests a mafia roleblocker most likely. If a kill was blocked N1, it's more likely to be Farlig than Rose imo.

Anything in particular making you lean garlic over rose? Rose has claimed town and was confirmed by Lurch. But it was done kind of sus so to me that leans me a little more to not believe it. But it is there so I can't ignore it.

Buffy @ 6/3/2017 8:52

Buffy @ 6/3/2017 10:46 Agree with this and this isn't exactly your "standard" game. I don't think kills are always going to be the same # every night so Rose being blocked N1 means little to me. And just to clarify, if it was someone else that was blocked I might think more of it but I do not think Rose is scum. You can't just assume that since someone was blocked, all other info about them goes out the window. Rose would not have stuck her neck out to save Lurchy d1 if they were scum-partners or killers. One flips and there goes that risky move. She's not an idiot.

This is a good point and something I hadn't thought of today.