Mads @ 29/1/2018 10:39

So is the reason Helios is getting more pressure than Nav just because of the simple fact that Nav came out and claimed and Helios only did so after? It doesn't really seem like a scum move to me to try to counter-claim Nav when Helios could have just stayed quiet as scum.

The opposite happened

Wrong order. Helios didn't really claim, wikey did it for him. Helios claimed cause he said no way did he get visited by wikey.
Nav claimed next day

I say we lynch zersch today and let the controversy stew one more day

Ahhh ok! So that was at the end of D2. Let me go back and read more. Herm said most of what I needed to read was D3 so I just went back.

Curtis @ 29/1/2018 10:37

I definitely believe that both of them have that role. The only question for me is whether or not two Townies would have it. It doesn’t feel impossible in this set up at all but I keep wavering. That’s why I’d like a full list of Helios’ abilities to see if it feels more like a town profile or mafia

If Helios gets lynched and flip town, does that mean you're going to automatically lynch Nav the next day?

Motley Lou @ 29/1/2018 10:44

Curtis @ 29/1/2018 10:37 I definitely believe that both of them have that role. The only question for me is whether or not two Townies would have it. It doesn’t feel impossible in this set up at all but I keep wavering. That’s why I’d like a full list of Helios’ abilities to see if it feels more like a town profile or mafia If Helios gets lynched and flip town, does that mean you're going to automatically lynch Nav the next day?

It sure doesn’t

That last bit is why i can't see nav lying here.

@maddie herm said read day 3 because you specifically mentioned nav/helios

Wikey's role/artist was really cool. Nice one, vlady!

Curtis @ 29/1/2018 10:25

Curtis @ 29/1/2018 9:21 Helios Garabandia @ 29/1/2018 9:19 Curtis @ 29/1/2018 8:07 ACTUALLY I’d like both Helios and Nav to post the song title that makes them a commuter if they could and if they don’t mind outing their band When the Lights Go Down in the City. What other songs/abilities do you have? I think you’re getting lynched today unless you convince people here Ohhh heliossssssss!

Helios is at work teaching a bunch of 8th graders about sorting algorithms.

My other songs are:
-Don't Stop Believin'
-Separate Ways
-Open Arms

Not fully interested in claiming all of my abilities at this time.

Ok so Helios had to come out and claim because Wikey basically claimed for him.

Not sure why Wikey decided to use scummy language like "mugging" yesterday.

thisisbad @ 29/1/2018 10:42

Wrong order. Helios didn't really claim, wikey did it for him. Helios claimed cause he said no way did he get visited by wikey. Nav claimed next day

Wikey claimed to have visited me, had a conversation, and "mugged me".
Since I commuted N1, this should have been impossible. As such, I called bullshit and voted Wikey.
I hinted the reason (read: the commuter action) strongly.
Wikey removed the ambiguity and put it out there.
Wikey got Lynched. That ended D2.
N2 got skipped.
D3, Nav claimed to also have a commuter ability.
And...here we are.

Helios @ 28/1/2018 14:30

Alternately, Wikey knows my role because I dropped massive hints in this topic about it. And that particular role has a very standard set of conditions, so it wouldn't be anything for him to be able to claim the conditions.

What do you make of saying this now that we know Wikey's role?

I agree with Curtis' list from D2, Post #1027, with the exception of maybe Ben and surprisingly Spin for once (which means he's prob scum).

Mads @ 29/1/2018 10:59

Helios @ 28/1/2018 14:30 Alternately, Wikey knows my role because I dropped massive hints in this topic about it. And that particular role has a very standard set of conditions, so it wouldn't be anything for him to be able to claim the conditions. What do you make of saying this now that we know Wikey's role?

I still have no idea how Wikey's action actually worked. I commuted N1, so Wikey shouldn't have been able to do anything to me or with me N1. He claims hostie said his action didn't count as a visit (which, wtf?), and that seems to have been the case. Frankly, if I commute, and someone claims to have visited me while commuting, I'm gonna call them out for lying 100% of the time.

Helios Garabandia @ 29/1/2018 12:03

Mads @ 29/1/2018 10:59 Helios @ 28/1/2018 14:30 Alternately, Wikey knows my role because I dropped massive hints in this topic about it. And that particular role has a very standard set of conditions, so it wouldn't be anything for him to be able to claim the conditions. What do you make of saying this now that we know Wikey's role? I still have no idea how Wikey's action actually worked. I commuted N1, so Wikey shouldn't have been able to do anything to me or with me N1. He claims hostie said his action didn't count as a visit (which, wtf?), and that seems to have been the case. Frankly, if I commute, and someone claims to have visited me while commuting, I'm gonna call them out for lying 100% of the time.

Yeah I'm just really confused as to how Wikey's role worked on people with multiple actions. In your case it sounds like it was whatever one you used that night, and that his role was before commuter in the order of actions.

I don't blame you for being skeptical, especially in the midst of having your role outed.