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Lamps @ 9/1/2017 9:06

Helios Garabandia @ 9/1/2017 14:18 Lamps @ 9/1/2017 2:31 Helios visits Helios Lamps visits Badger DS uses boomerang on Badger meaning Lamps is dealt 10% damage Now bussing would make it Helios visits Lamps Lamps visits Badger DS uses boomerang on Badger meaning Helios is dealt 10% damage This is speculation, based on what I read - but it would explain Helios getting damage. No it wouldn't. Why would DS using the boomerang on Badger deal me damage in this situation? If I am bussed with Lamps, and the issue comes from DS and Lamps using abilities on Badger, then how do I end up with the damage? I don't see how DS using the boomerang wouldn't still cause Lamps to take the damage. Unless I don't understand how DS' boomerang actually works, I'm very much missing something in this scenario. DS action affects target X. That was me. Now X and Y are bussed. So it affects Y. Y is you. I THINK that is how it works but im not the host.

I understand that. The way it's described though is odd, as quoted in this quotethread (more letters lol):

W (DS) targets X (Badger).
Y (Lamps) targets X (Badger).
Z (Helios) targets Z (Helios).

Y and Z are bussed. Thus,

Z (Helios) targets Y (Lamps)
Y (Lamps) still targets X (Badger)
W (DS) still targets X(Badger)

Thus, I don't understand how Z (Helios) gets the damage. Unless the way it works is that DS' action deals damage to whoever targets his target, which means that damage, and not just actions, is bussable? Alternately, DS directly targeted Lamps, which would be bussed to me.

Herm @ 9/1/2017 10:38

You don't think the hammer's a day kill? Sounds like it's set up for that, given that it's the only item available today.

I mean it could be. The fact that the hammer activates as soon as you touch it might mean it attacks automatically?

But in the game you just swing indiscriminately hitting anyone you can reach and stopping people from hitting you by hitting them first.

Could be a random attack or a instant counterattack weapon

Perhaps the hammer is some kind of PGO-type action? Thinking about how the hammer automatically knocks the shit out of anything that comes in contact with it, perhaps the hammer automatically knocks the shit out of anyone who visits the person?

Maybe Kirby can stone the hammer wielder though.. The possibilities are endless.

I like that, I could see the hammer being a PGO one shot.

Do people want to give the hammer to someone everyone feels is town or no? Are we going to let it go to random?

If it's random then I will probably unclaim.

Obviously giving the hammer to town is a good idea.

Worst idea...letting ahoda have it.

Giving it to a random person seems like a weird choice imo.

Who else is claiming it?

I'm fine with DS and Vic fighting for the hammer, not sure who else is wanting it.

Helios Garabandia @ 9/1/2017 10:45

Perhaps the hammer is some kind of PGO-type action? Thinking about how the hammer automatically knocks the shit out of anything that comes in contact with it, perhaps the hammer automatically knocks the shit out of anyone who visits the person?

That sounds right except for the fact that the item is being publicly recieved. Nobody is going to be bothering the hammer person tonight surely. Seems like the threat of the hammer works just as well as the hammer itself.

Mittens @ 9/1/2017 10:47

Maybe Kirby can stone the hammer wielder though.. The possibilities are endless.

This is true. Or you could throw a bomb or use find fire or any projectile really... Don't think the meta for this game is That complicated though.

Vic @ 9/1/2017 9:51

Do people want to give the hammer to someone everyone feels is town or no? Are we going to let it go to random? If it's random then I will probably unclaim.

We've been discussing how the hammer is essentially the most powerful weapon released thus far, and just what way the hammer will wreck shit......and you want to give it to someone random!?

The SSB Mafia meta is so real that Boc gave Kirby edge tech.

Malion 🏴 @ 9/1/2017 8:54

Mittens @ 9/1/2017 10:47 Maybe Kirby can stone the hammer wielder though.. The possibilities are endless. This is true. Or you could throw a bomb or use find fire or any projectile really... Don't think the meta for this game is That complicated though.

I was mostly just messing around, due to the fact that we could theorize about what a potential item would do - but most of that is purely speculation. I think it's pretty obvious that the hammer would be a powerful item, and that is all we really need to know. I think the best play is for the group to collectively choose who we think should get it, and if anyone else claims it then that is suspicious as fuck.

I would be comfortable with DS because I am fairly certain that he is town based on how he has played so far.

Helios Garabandia @ 9/1/2017 10:00

Vic @ 9/1/2017 9:51 Do people want to give the hammer to someone everyone feels is town or no? Are we going to let it go to random? If it's random then I will probably unclaim. We've been discussing how the hammer is essentially the most powerful weapon released thus far, and just what way the hammer will wreck shit......and you want to give it to someone random!?

That's not what I said at all.