I have no idea what to do.

Hermsworth @ 10/4/2016 19:08

How much time we got?

50 minutes

I'm switching to Lamps/Wikey/Jay at this point since no one seems interested in solving the List issue with a Boc lynch

I think Lamps/Wikey are together if Mafia. No idea how Lamps doesn't get a scum vibe from Wikey. Though I think at this point opposite scum team members will defend who they think is scummy a bit to clear the townjes

thisisbad @ 10/4/2016 19:10

Curtis @ 10/4/2016 18:04 TIB it's a treestump, it's a common role. You don't quit, you confirm yourself as town and help out how you can with ideas and theories at the expense of your vote and number our idea of common role is different. I'd say it was the most ridiculous thing ever if someone hadn't claimed scavenger.

It is a common role on FE*

Wikey @ 10/4/2016 19:10

Curtis announced in his claim, as has been pointed out already, that he was a typical Hermit. Given that he knows what an actual Hermit role does (it's been in several ATTWS games), it seems odd that he would call his version of the role typical, when it sounds more like a tree stump, as he now admits. Doesn't make sense. Not sure what to make of it either, cuz it seems like a really silly mistake to make if he is scum trying to pass off a fake claim.

I've had all this time to think of a claim if scum, I wouldn't mix those up. Like I said I just treated the two as one in the same since I've had it in my mind that that's what a Hermit is this game

##Unlynch (regrettably!!)
##Lynch Lamps

Too much fishy shit surrounding him. I think the poisoning was a ploy to make it look like a poison Doctor saved him. I don't buy a poison Doctor being in the game to use their role once IF they're still alive IF the poisoner is alive and poisons

We're actually gonna be very stupid looking for letting Lamps get away with about 5 blatant lies so far (:

There's obviously no Poison Doctor.

Wouldn't Vanilla Cop be in the game with 50% of town being vanilla?

Hermsworth @ 10/4/2016 19:25

There's obviously no Poison Doctor.

lol if you believe that then I dunno how you aren't lynching Lamps. Any other explanation to him surviving? Because there isn't one

I guess he COULD be a vanilla cop on the scum side, I don't see why not. Scum has full cops often. A vanilla cop in a vanilla heavy game would help his team narrow down town players who have power roles vs those who don't

Lamps was also blocked last night and there was only one kill. Rose said her mafia was killing Mal last night. No way the other mafia would choose to double up on that

I think Lamps was sent for the kill because of all the heat he's gotten and was blocked, hence no kill

Plus Brian tried to recruit him and died

Plus he didn't die from his apparently poisoning

Plus his info on Eben not being vanilla wasn't right. And he only claimed Herm was vanilla after Herm claimed

That's a LOT of pluses!

Why would he just outright say he's been poisoned if he knew he wasn't poisoned, and then proceed to fight his innocence the day after?

That makes no sense to me.

Hermsworth @ 10/4/2016 19:31

Why would he just outright say he's been poisoned if he knew he wasn't poisoned, and then proceed to fight his innocence the day after? That makes no sense to me.

Why would they poison barely active and no threat Zilla? This makes sense to me:

Curtis @ 10/4/2016 10:43

The only thing I can think of for Lamps being scum is this: Lamps is either the poisoner or on the team with the poisoner. Lamps claimed to be poisoned so once there were two poison claims in him and Zilla, Zilla would die at the end of the day and Lamps would live. Then the obvious solution is that there's a town poison doctor who chose Lamps to save, because of course they would over the inactive Zilla (explains the motivation for poisoning Zilla of all people). Then Lamps now gets to claim that he's not mafia because they poisoned him. It's kind of a long con if true but not a particularly far fetched one at all and has benefits. The last several games in a row have included different plays like that I've thought Lamps has been Town for awhile but the only reason I'm skeptical at this point is because of a town poison doctor. For Lamps to survive being poisoned, there has to be a town poison doctor who can save one of the two people by the end of the day. But if the poisoning was a one time thing which it definitely seems to be, WHY would there be a town role that exists just for this one moment

Lamps has been getting heat and needed a last ditch effort like this. His heat also explains why he'd be sent out for the kill and hence no kill from a block last night. He had to come clean about being blocked or whoever blocked him would call him out if he produced fake results

Wikey you believed my claim and said List scum was Boc or Christian. Then you started lynching me only once others began to. WHAT GIVES???

Dats boolshit

Starting to think it's Boc again.

Fuck it. This is the last vote change I'm gonna make:

##Unlynch
##Lynch Boc

Hermsworth @ 10/4/2016 19:25

There's obviously no Poison Doctor. Wouldn't Vanilla Cop be in the game with 50% of town being vanilla?

if all the people claiming to be Vanilla, actually are. :P