Okay so the Jackie/Z vote:

It was tied at 6, and I didn't feel I had the info to weigh in with it that close, so I voted scum Cody instead.

Mal and Perry were already on Jackie, so I feel much better about the 2 of them. They could easily have moved to Z or jumped off of Jackie to save them.

Zach was already on Z. Cody broke the tie to put Z up at 7 votes. Followed quickly by Jackie. Still feel pretty bad about both of them at this point.

Penner reversed and tied it back up by switching to Jackie.

I have been looking for the Matt vote timing here, but he'd stayed out of it so far and actually noted Jackie in his unsure category to this point. BUT Matt did break the tie back to put Jackie in the lead. He didn't have to do that, so maybe feeling much better about him too.

Jackie didn't claim, just said town PR.

im317 unlynched Z, which was a good move after Jackie's non posts. Then Z called Jackie out on going invisible. Seems like that straw broke the camel's back.

After that it was a rush to vote Jackie - Rodney, then Kyle, then Reaper (maybe not because he didn't vote correctly), then Penner back on, then I beat Reaper to the hammer.

im just a big silly


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But we love him anyway

Explain how claiming vig at the ass crack of day 2 is a successful gambit for a sk? Even if we eventually mislynch the actual vig their days are numbered. That's like an auto loss. Sorry Zach I just can't buy it. Also you haven't lynched 317 yet

ZacharyB @ 8/9/2020 11:09

I can literally prove my role tonight too so I don’t know why it makes sense to lynch me today

So could the SK.

So, still think Zach and Cody for scum. Probably adding Reaper back into my scum watchlist, and I could see Kyle as mafia PGO. That's been a role included before.

May need some clarity from IM317 though in light of Zach's claim. For Zach to be legit what he claims we'd then have a full-time town vig, 2 roles that flipped town with a 1-shot kill, Z claiming town Joat with a 1-shot kill, and now an even night town vig.

You'd think with that firepower, 3/4s of the game would need to be like 1-shot BP otherwise the game could've ended 2 days ago with likely mafia and SK kills added in.

Lost within all this "is Zach SK or not" talk, we are moving away from finding the other kill/survival from last night.

I am started to feel that Zach is taking one for the team today to keep us from pushing to find the attacker/survivor from last night.

Rodney @ 8/9/2020 12:12

Explain how claiming vig at the ass crack of day 2 is a successful gambit for a sk? Even if we eventually mislynch the actual vig their days are numbered. That's like an auto loss. Sorry Zach I just can't buy it. Also you haven't lynched 317 yet

Similarly, why does it fake sense for me to fake even night vig? I need to prove it tonight. If I’m not vig, how would I do that?

I haven’t voted 317 because tbh I still think Cody is the way to go today. I honestly regret claiming because I knew no one would believe me over 317 but once I realized he was full time I couldn’t just keep it to myself. But I also agree that it’s a weird gambit for him to pull? So I’m a bit conflicted myself!

Mafia PGO is interesting but we've already had a goon, a godfather, and "power plant owner" flip. Thats 4 mafia members just sitting around every night. Would make for the laziest mafia team ever. Improbable imo. I would leave Kyle alone

Spin @ 8/9/2020 12:13

ZacharyB @ 8/9/2020 11:09 I can literally prove my role tonight too so I don’t know why it makes sense to lynch me today So could the SK.

Except there’s gonna be another kill tonight? Lmao

The several people saying “Cody is scum bc he Town read Z but voted him” feels so lazy. I said I was conflicted bc he sounded genuine but his actions were hard to ignore.

This Zach Vig claim is spicy

ZacharyB @ 8/9/2020 12:18

I need to prove it tonight. If I’m not vig, how would I do that?

Commit the factional kill

I just went back to look at the roles in WWE mafia for an example of the killing roles and we had: the mafia kill, a townie with 1 night kill and 1 day kill, a townie that could kill permanently at night and 1 day kill, a serial killer whose kill couldn't be messed with, another townie with 1 night kill, a town jailer that could choose to kill, and a third party with a one-shot kill.

For an example of where Christian's head is at.

Spin @ 8/9/2020 12:17

Lost within all this "is Zach SK or not" talk, we are moving away from finding the other kill/survival from last night. I am started to feel that Zach is taking one for the team today to keep us from pushing to find the attacker/survivor from last night.

This makes no sense. How exactly is town going to figure out who the attacker/survivor is without someone claiming info? How would I possibly distract from something like that?

Or are you just upset that you can’t just spend all day musing over a survival to make it look like you’re participating? :)

Christian @ 1/9/2020 15:58

OK, soon. I'm just nervous to unleash this game on everyone. lol

Day 4 "Red Wedding Anniversary" Lynch Count

Zach (4/8) - Matt, Rodney, Jamie, Spin
Cody (3/8) - Perry, Zach, Spin, Timmah
Zersch (1/8) - Reaper
Perry (1/8) - Kyle
Kyle (0/8) - Rodney
Reaper (0/8) - Kyle


Day 4 ends Tuesday 10 PM EST.