Christian @ 14/7/2023 20:40

Shadow @ 14/7/2023 21:35 Christian @ 14/7/2023 20:32 Shadow @ 14/7/2023 21:29 I’m in AC this weekend so I will be on limited. Also I was there at the end of day 2 but I was voting Farlig. I also don’t know Reaper enough based on past games but his claim seemed half ass like he was giving up. Didnt sway me enough to try and save him Do you have time to answer the 500 questions to potentially be KEVIN'd? And would you even like to be KEVIN'd? i can answer 5 and yes my dad is kevin my brother is kevin. tome for me to be kevin WHO WANTS TO BE A KEVIN? 1. Are you scum? 2. Are you sure? 3. Coffee. Hot or cold? 4. If you could KEVIN anyone today, who would it be? 5. How much do you like me? Very much, or very, very much?

no
yes
hot with some whole milk
you
an unhealthy amount

Rodney @ 15/7/2023 13:38

I just don't see why it's so far fetched and unbelievable what I'm saying. Obviously this game has lots of factions and recruiting going on. My role makes it even more clear to me that this is just the mechanic. Someone dies recruiting me and it's just unheard of to all of you that I could possibly not be scum. Its literally the game mechanic, I just don't think it takes all these leaps in logic to realize I'm right. The groupthink and heel digging has made this impossible. I'm beyond frustrated so sorry if I'm being short, JJ

It's okay, I haven't had coffee yet so I'm probably misinterpreting.

When I saw your post to Stargate to shut up and that you weren't outing your overlord I thought you were admitting being scum and I lynched you (Christian said it's fine don't worry). Then when I saw your next two posts which included info about Kat/Shadow I understood you weren't. Either way, I have been trying to focus on the game info of your posts and not just the OMGUS of them.

I think two mason teams who can recruit every night is way too OP but you've said the recruiter roles are not symmetrical to explain that. (inb4 I'm frustrated scum because I said OP). So just trying to read between your lines you are possibly talking about a smaller mason team which wouldn't be so OP. It's also a good way to get out of disclosing further info. I'm trying to have an open mind because it's a Nav game and he's already added some interesting mechanics. Plus I don't know MCU re the flavor but others have said it could be possible.

Christian @ 15/7/2023 14:02

Rodney @ 15/7/2023 14:00 Jed wants me gone so bad to the point where all of his "logic" centers around a word where we must kill me to verify the scan information I've provided lol. The fact that he is being this analytical yet does not compute a situation where we just believe me is telling. Is it because your team is screwed if we do? but he makes some interesting points. You are fighting tooth and nail to stay in the game while saying that you know you're on borrowed time anyway, etc, etc. And yes, if we take out Kat or Shadow today and they flip Town, he's correct in that it will be you vs. the other one for the vote. And if you all lynch the other one, that buys you another day as well.

I care I'm sorry lol
Yeah well then it's on you to pick right if you go down that path. You so realize we have the same exact situation tomorrow but it's Kat and shadow instead of me and shadow, only minus a town PR. This is what I mean about being analytic but conveniently ignoring the situation where I'm right (the actual situation)

Christian @ 15/7/2023 14:00

Rodney @ 15/7/2023 13:53 itsbrianyay @ 15/7/2023 13:52 Weight, why wouldn’t Rodney just check Cat against his Mason partner? It's the first thing I thought of. I was told no told no, by who? or whom? you pick.

Rodney listening to someone else telling him what to do is funny.

I think it's a good idea for everyone to vote in spirit. Not for my benefit, but for future.

Christian @ 15/7/2023 14:10

I think it's a good idea for everyone to vote in spirit. Not for my benefit, but for future.

I'm an innovator.

Christian @ 15/7/2023 14:10

I think it's a good idea for everyone to vote in spirit. Not for my benefit, but for future.

This is going to make me sad

-had no idea kat visited me night 1 until reading it here
-I had strong town vibes on rod until this claim. (Rose’s reveal about steph too). where are the masons backing him up?!? If it is the truth we will never get rid of the doubts. He surely needs to be lynched for the better of towns information?
-I had Kat at the bottom of my suspects too but if his role is actually factual then I know it’s her. I’d expect both of us to be targeted fairly. I’d be surprised if it came to that because two groups of masons is bizarre. Stephs role states she dies if she picks non town faction…. so mafia? third party?

Rodney @ 15/7/2023 14:11

Christian @ 15/7/2023 14:10 I think it's a good idea for everyone to vote in spirit. Not for my benefit, but for future. This is going to make me sad

it's better to know who would have voted for who.

I also don't believe a mafia would vote to KEVIN someone not in their own faction so quickly, such as Kat did for Rose and Steph. Reading back her posts from D2, she doesn't seem that scummy.

Jed @ 15/7/2023 13:53

* Rodney is unrecruitable, this is undisputed * Rodney claims that Kat and Shadow are different alignments, a claim that is only verifiable by killing both of them * Rodney claims arguing this would just be a huge distraction and wants to focus discussion on more productive topics. Says "I'm not here to outlast, so if I die, I die. It's whatever, it's only a matter of time at this point. My entire objective here is lead town in the best direction I can before it happens". Proceeds to fight tooth and nail to stay in the game, even though his continued presence would certainly lead to further debate on him * Rodney proceeds to give vague and incomplete information which only makes him look more suspicious * Rodney fails to acknowledge that the usefulness of the information he gives is fully dependent on our belief that he isn't scum, which can only be confirmed by his death. If Rodney was recruited night 1, I'd think the best use of the scanner would be to scan his recruiter (who is known to be safe) and someone else. That way, he would have gotten hard confirmation on someone being scum or not. If we kill Kat this round and she comes up town, what in the world are we supposed to do next round? Just argue about whether it's Shadow or Rodney? As I stated earlier, the best thing for a town Rodney to do is decide what information to share, do it, accept his death and know that the info will be 100% confirmed upon his death. If he's actually town, that's too bad, but this and debate around him was easily forseeable and will continue if he survives. Rodney's focus on his own survival over clarity for the town is not helping matters. If he is town, he's made some massive tactical blunders this round (frankly, I think he's a better player than that). Also, Christopher, Rodney says he's offering you a 50-50, but that is of course only true if Rodney is town. Otherwise he's offering a 0-0. Even if you think there's a 2/3 chance Rodney is town, then he's offering you a 1/3-1/3, while killing him also gives a 1/3. So anything less than 2/3 town odds for Rodney would suggest killing him. (Like, obviously if you think one of Kat/Shadow is more likely, so it's 60-40 or whatever, that changes it, but you get the general point). Frankly, Rodney is making the argument he thinks is more likely to lead to his own victory. But for Rodney's continued presence to lead to a more likely town victory, he'd 1. Have to be town (obviously) and 2. People would have to unquestionably believe him (which would just be foolish). That suggests he wouldn't benefit from a town victory.

i like the cut of your jib Jeb

Christian @ 15/7/2023 14:10

I think it's a good idea for everyone to vote in spirit. Not for my benefit, but for future.

#vote Rodney

Shadow @ 15/7/2023 14:13

Stephs role states she dies if she picks non town faction…. so mafia? third party?

TheNavneet @ 14/7/2023 21:05

Steph If you pick someone who is not recruitable, you wil die.

???

Shadow @ 15/7/2023 14:13

-had no idea kat visited me night 1 until reading it here -I had strong town vibes on rod until this claim. (Rose’s reveal about steph too). where are the masons backing him up?!? If it is the truth we will never get rid of the doubts. He surely needs to be lynched for the better of towns information? -I had Kat at the bottom of my suspects too but if his role is actually factual then I know it’s her. I’d expect both of us to be targeted fairly. I’d be surprised if it came to that because two groups of masons is bizarre. Stephs role states she dies if she picks non town faction…. so mafia? third party?

Steph's role actually doesn't state that she dies if she picks non-town, but someone "who is not recruitable".

He was clearly very careful to phrase it the way he did

Rodney @ 15/7/2023 13:16

Shadow @ 15/7/2023 14:13 Stephs role states she dies if she picks non town faction…. so mafia? third party? TheNavneet @ 14/7/2023 21:05 Steph If you pick someone who is not recruitable, you wil die. ???

oh my b. I still interpret that as recruiting mafia or a serial killer realistically lol