oh...THAT's why Daniel Craig appeared on SNL this week with Rami Malek hosting.

Formally known as Curtis' best friend but now Vern @ 18/10/2021 3:19

Anyone see this???? I’m excited

If anyone has seen it, I would bet money it would have been Nav. Ask him.

I saw it

o yeah there's a thread

it was solid, I'd probably put it second after Casino Royale as far as Craig's movies go. The beginning and the end of it were good while the middle sagged a bit

Ana de Armas was great, wish she was in it more. Kinda funny how heavily she was pushed in the marketing for the actual size of the role she had. She had way more chemistry with Craig than Seydoux or the new 007

Malek was kinda wasted and was just a very thinly drawn textbook Bond villain. Waltz was more effective in his single scene (and I never saw Spectre so it's not even like I was already familiar with that character)

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liked the way Bond went out / the decision to actually take him out (at least this iteration). Pretty suitably epic found the cheesy one-liners kinda jarring tbh. I know that's a Bond staple but really feels weird in THIS iteration of Bond. Worst one by far was the new 007's "You know what time it is?? Time......to DIE!!"

Grumpy Old Man @ 18/10/2021 9:16

Formally known as Curtis' best friend but now Vern @ 18/10/2021 3:19 Anyone see this???? I’m excited If anyone has seen it, I would bet money it would have been Nav. Ask him.

hey whtf why would u assume this!

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its true i did see it on the friday of the week it released in the US but still!

i didnt like it that much. i felt it was too long which it kinda had to be for all the setup they had to do. the action in the opening scene was great but after that it fell flat. it didnt feel like a Bond film to me which may have been their intention to break the Bond mold or whatever but meh.

1. casino royale
2. skyfall
3. no time to die
4. quantum of solace
5. spectre

People rave about Daniel Craig's Bond but idk, I love, love, love the older ones with Sean Connery and got into Bond during the Brosnan era. Saying Craig's Bond is better than Connery's is just wild to me. Silver medal. I want some Idris Elba bond. They shoulda done that right after Spectre. 6 years for another Craig one when he seemingly hates doing it is so weird.

I gotta rewatch Craig's Bond movies before I check this out! I've seen Casino Royale way too many times but the rest I think just the once.

TheNavneet @ 18/10/2021 20:30

Grumpy Old Man @ 18/10/2021 9:16 Formally known as Curtis' best friend but now Vern @ 18/10/2021 3:19 Anyone see this???? I’m excited If anyone has seen it, I would bet money it would have been Nav. Ask him. hey whtf why would u assume this! Spoiler + its true i did see it on the friday of the week it released in the US but still!

Because you asked me to put all the bin movies on Plex and told me you were binging them before the release so you could go see it. (:

THIS WAS EXCELLENT

Very worth seeing in theaters

Rewatched Casino Royale, Quantum of Solace, and Skyfall. The first one was really, really good. The second one... kinda lifeless and underwhelming. Lots of bad editing choices, too. Third one ends up being pretty good, especially the look of everything. The big bad had great dialogue, motives, character, etc. By far the best of the three in that regard. Just really captivating with everything he was doing. Great minister guy, great Q, and of course M being M. So much to like and yet my god the final product being what it is in the first half leaves me to question the writers and producers on what they were doing. Rant incoming. It's like they dove head first into a cesspool of sexism in Skyfall and didn't even realize it? There's knowingly making your lead misogynistic in scenes, and then there's the film itself doing it from a non character level and treating some scenes as if what's happening is not even the least bit questionable.

Skyfall rant

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First, we're introduced to Eve, a field agent who the movie highlights as someone who sucks at driving, how funny!, who also is seemingly unneeded in the entire action scene, as if her not being there would've changed nothing. Then they have her shoot bond to near death on accident (I guess we know why she was here now), then they have her get pulled from field duty, told by Bond that field work isn't for everyone, which she listens to in the end, and when she shows up in Shanghai she's making quips about how she's been sent there by MI6 to basically have sex with him, which they more than imply happens off camera after she finishes shaving his face. Then you have Severine, the woman Bond deduces has been a sex slave since childhood. I'm sure she really wanted to hear Bond be the one to give voice to that trauma, which for the film is her story. He says he'll help her. Next time they meet he's sneaking into her room, into her shower naked while she's naked, and he takes her from behind. Like... what!? She's clearly been traumatized and was shaking even talking about her past and her current situation the literal last time they spoke. Writers, producers, hello? For all Bond knows she's thinking this is payment for him helping her. She's literally a captive of the bad guy and at Bond's mercy. Claiming he'll help her... which of course he doesn't. He uses her to get what he wants and to get where he wants to get to and then she's just killed ten minutes later. They have him be unable to shoot a whiskey glass off her head, so she gets shot by the bad guy. Then within seconds, Bond's shooting everybody there without missing a shot. Quips galore as her life and death are treated as nothing. Just terrible. At least in this one Bond didn't drive-by bang someone, bring her to an evil guy party, forget about her existence, leave her there, and then go all surprised pikachu face when she turned up naked and dead in his bed covered in crude oil. Let's not let the audience think too long on how Field's last few hours must've went, but let's linger long enough to let them know Bond messed up. I think I'd like Skyfall as much as Casino Royale if not for the obvious early stuff that seems mind boggling to keep in. It's so much better without it. Really surprised no one looked at the script or the final cut and didn't think to change the shower scene. We're literally left to believe he, known to her as a murderous stranger, sneaks into her room, sees her naked in the shower, and so he gets naked and joins her with all he knows about her past and her current situation as a constantly abused captive of the villain. :| He literally is the one to tell the audience what her history is, a victim of sex trafficking since she was a child. Just bonkers their next scene together is a surprise from behind sex scene with no build up of her even knowing he's there. Just cut it out. Have him keep it in his pants with this one woman.

I watched it last weekend and I enjoyed it.