The votes on Sab are more telling than the votes on Vern. Everybody seems to think Vern is town. It's harder to jump on that train and look innocent. But, you could easily jump on Sab's train as scum, playing up the "Vern is more town" argument, while lynching (claimed) Town, and getting away with it.

im317 @ 21/8/2016 19:56

oh i just did the math and it looks like i was attacked by the same person both nights.

no one said there would be math involved.

Christian @ 21/8/2016 21:58

im317 @ 21/8/2016 21:56 oh i just did the math and it looks like i was attacked by the same person both nights. How would you know? Same amount of damage?

yep

I think either I was targeted by multiple people last night or someone has something really powerful. In most circumstances I would have been killed last night: over 200 damage.

spindoctor02 @ 21/8/2016 21:54

Helios Garabandia @ 21/8/2016 20:51 spindoctor02 @ 21/8/2016 21:18 So, how'd that Sab train work out for everyone? Today I'd look at im317, Timmah, Lamps, and Helios from that lynch train. I also wouldn't be against pressuring Brian for his lurking yesterday. Based on the information I had yesterday, the Sab vote was, in my opinion, a reasonable move. Of course, I backed up my reasoning with lots and lots (and lots!) of posts and quotes! Unfortunately for us, Sab flipped Town. The vote had the wrong outcome, but my reasoning for it was based in the actual events going on in the topic, and NOT "better than Vern" or worse, "gotta get my ult points!". So...don't try that shit. Yet, you completely ignored his claim, which was 100% accurate. Ignored it completely. And you say you are paying attention. I could make a 48 quote post too, if I wanted, but I only need one to show you choose poorly by ignoring information.

"I claim something" =/= "It's 100% true".

His behavior was scummy as shit. You yourself said so multiple times. His claim didn't change his behavior, and frankly, the ability to leave a mine to attack someone who visits a person isn't exactly the most pro-Town role out there. After all, said mine is indiscriminate, and could easily damage a protective role or an investigative role as it could damage a killing role. Plus, after Ahoda claimed, it would strike me as likely that someone would want to go investigate and see if that was a real claim. Leaving a mine to damage the investigator didn't strike me as a Town move.

Plus, again, his behavior was pretty fucking scummy! So sure, we know NOW that his claim was 100% true...but I did not know that THEN. Yet somehow, you're acting as if YOU did!?

im317 @ 21/8/2016 22:00

Christian @ 21/8/2016 21:58 im317 @ 21/8/2016 21:56 oh i just did the math and it looks like i was attacked by the same person both nights. How would you know? Same amount of damage? yep

I mean, it's probably the case if someone was trying to finish the job. But I've just been assuming certain people could deal same amounts of damage as others depending on their characters/roles.

Christian @ 21/8/2016 22:03

im317 @ 21/8/2016 22:00 Christian @ 21/8/2016 21:58 im317 @ 21/8/2016 21:56 oh i just did the math and it looks like i was attacked by the same person both nights. How would you know? Same amount of damage? yep I mean, it's probably the case if someone was trying to finish the job. But I've just been assuming certain people could deal same amounts of damage as others depending on their characters/roles.

maybe. we will have to wait for more people to flip before we know for sure.

I was also attacked and blocked last night..

First night that two people claimed being blocked. interesting.

Also Helios and Vern are the only 2 to be on both lynches. Something to think about

-dr @ 21/8/2016 19:01

I think either I was targeted by multiple people last night or someone has something really powerful. In most circumstances I would have been killed last night: over 200 damage.

Very likely you were the intended Mafia kill. That'd make sense as to all the HP damage

My vote was cancelled yesterday

## lynch Helios

I'm not buying the townie act sorry bro

Ahoda........I'm always wishy washy
Stop trying to throw shade

Ole' Vern @ 21/8/2016 22:14

## lynch Helios I'm not buying the townie act sorry bro

I trust Helios more than Ahoda and Wikey tbh

Ole' Vern @ 21/8/2016 22:13

-dr @ 21/8/2016 19:01 I think either I was targeted by multiple people last night or someone has something really powerful. In most circumstances I would have been killed last night: over 200 damage. Very likely you were the intended Mafia kill. That'd make sense as to all the HP damage

That's what I'm thinking too. I'm wondering if it was multiple attackers from mafia or if they have a factional kill. This amount would have made sense as a faction kill, but if it was, that calls the lack of one the previous night into question. No one's claimed this much damage, and the only kill N1 was scum.