Wikey @ 9/11/2015 12:31

Ok, so if im317 is an SK, and we can assume there is at least one Mafia remaining (probably the GF) then town is screwed. Even if we lynch right today, the lucky survivor kills tomorrow night and its game over. So let's not dwell on that. If im317 is the SK, there is nothing we can do about it, and it's only a theory anyway. Plus if im317 is the vig, he is the only shot we have at winning (or at least drawing) if we mislynch today. What we can say for certain is that one of me, Timmah or Curtis are scum. Given I can rule myself out, its between Timmah and Curtis. Though I wouldn't like to say which one...

I asked you this yesterday, but seriously if you look at the whole game and have to choose whether Timmah or Curtis played more town, and you manage to come up with Curtis being more town, then there is literally nothing I can do to help you here. There seems to be this mystique surrounding Curtis where no one will ever agree to lynch him. Bring up his lynch and 45 people start arguing with you that you are being dumb, including about 20 who aren't even playing the game that just pop in out of nowhere! (okay, slight exaggeration, but not that much...).

If anyone can cite me any examples of Curtis actually doing town things in this game, I'll have brian send you some cookies.

For the record, I am operating solely on the assumption that im317 really is town vig. The more I think about it, the more the evidence suggests he's really serial killer. But, unless the rest of us are ALL 3 town, scum wins if 317 is SK

Timmah @ 9/11/2015 13:38

Curtis @ 9/11/2015 12:44 Hi at work I'll be on soon DUMB move lynching Herm! I agree, we definitely should've lynched you

If you're town, you blew the game yesterday BUCKO! You too 317

Timmah @ 9/11/2015 15:00

For the record, I am operating solely on the assumption that im317 really is town vig. The more I think about it, the more the evidence suggests he's really serial killer. But, unless the rest of us are ALL 3 town, scum wins if 317 is SK

there were 2 kills last night, so there has to be a mafia member left. and for the record i am town vig, not serial killer.

##lynch Curtis

Timmah @ 9/11/2015 14:00

But, unless the rest of us are ALL 3 town, scum wins if 317 is SK

Please attempt to use your head

I'll be home in two hours. The important thing is to not lynch prematurely (317!!). If you two lynch me right now and Wikey is final mafia, Wikey hammers it and wins. And vice versa etc

Day 8 Vote Count

Curtis (1/3) - im317

21 hours and 5 minutes left

Curtis @ 9/11/2015 14:19

Timmah @ 9/11/2015 14:00 But, unless the rest of us are ALL 3 town, scum wins if 317 is SK Please attempt to use your head

You are right, with 2 kills, there is no way that you, me and Wikey are all town. Brings me right back to all of my other points wherein you are the most likely person to be mafia.

Curtis @ 9/11/2015 14:21

I'll be home in two hours. The important thing is to not lynch prematurely (317!!). If you two lynch me right now and Wikey is final mafia, Wikey hammers it and wins. And vice versa etc

Actually, this isn't a bad idea. If Wikey hammers and you flip town, then 317 kills Wikey, and as long as Wikey doesn't manage to somehow kill him first, town wins.

Timmah @ 9/11/2015 14:59

Curtis @ 9/11/2015 14:21 I'll be home in two hours. The important thing is to not lynch prematurely (317!!). If you two lynch me right now and Wikey is final mafia, Wikey hammers it and wins. And vice versa etc Actually, this isn't a bad idea. If Wikey hammers and you flip town, then 317 kills Wikey, and as long as Wikey doesn't manage to somehow kill him first, town wins.

Except Godfather would be bulletproof and 317 can't kill him

Again, your head etc

I understand where your assumptions come from, but at some point, I'm just going to fall back on what "to assume" does.

Since I need to use my head, please review my thoughts on everyone and tell me where I went wrong.

okay home HELLO

I'm clearly, on paper, the scummiest left based on voting history. NOW ASK YOURSELVES.....would I, Godfather Curtis, put myself in this end game position where I'm the scummiest person left just because I didn't jump on scum buddy lynch trains early enough?

FUCK NO!!!!!!!!!

I have not played like the Mafia Godfather would. One of Wikey or Timmah quite clearly has. From my PoV, one of you threw Ari under the bus in order to look good at the end here. It's what you needed to do since your team was sucking and it was looking like you'd be the last scum standing. You needed to look as good as possible for this final stretch. MafiaCurtis has not done that! MafiaWikey or MafiaTimmah have attempted to much more than I have

Not only that, but I was one of the highest targets for 317 to kill at night. As Godfather, I absolutely would not risk that. Why hasn't 317 been attacked by the Godfather, who, if they get attacked and survive, is fucked just before the end? Because the Godfather is a relatively trusted 'townie' at the moment (again, I don't fit that description!!). I had a VERY high chance of being killed by 317 the past few nights and would've been stupid to not take him out. The Godfather is comfortable enough to not need to. (THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT POINT THAT MUST BE CONSIDERED!!!!!)

Obviously I know for a fact that it's Wikey or Timmah. I wanna look back to see how hard each of you actually threw Ari under the bus and see how other Mafia members interacted with you. But right now, since I know it's one of you two, you each look very suspicious to me in different ways, some of it because of how townish you've tried to look

The Herm lynch is a big moment but could go either way really. GodfatherWikey would've been smart to try to save Herm like he was. If he got down to F4 or F3 with Herm alive, Herm is the easiest Godfather candidate and scapegoat for him with a one time BP claim. GodfatherTimmah would've been trying to just take out BP Herm immediately because he thought a BP was a threat to him going towards the end

One thing that bugs me about Wikey is that he believed I was Town so easily. To me it seemed like he wanted me on his side for the final stretch, and I didn't really offer up much to suggest I was Town so I'm not sure why he believed me

For this final day, GodfatherWikey would be playing it the smartest. Either he's Town and is actually trying to figure things out and not rushing into it, or he's Godfather and is pretending to try to figure things out. Timmah is being stupid either as a townie or the Godfather. Timmah if you're town, you're barking up the wrong tree with me and your one track mind against me today is what'll lose the game for Town. If Timmah's Godfather, he's going for the far easier lynch in me for the quicker win. If that's the case, I'm hoping Wikey and 317 realize it

I can't tell which is the case. I'm leaning towards lynching Timmah unless I'm very convinced Wikey is Godfather. And...I'd rather see Godfather Wikey win than Godfather Timmah :yay:

I kinda think 317 is SK but like Wikey said that really doesn't matter, either he'll win alone or split the win with the Godfather. We can't do anything about him being SK or not. His decision to kill last night was.....VERY unwise! Should've killed Ben after the tie between him and I if anything. I have no idea why he killed last night. Also his Herm lynch was extremely shady, SK317 would've wanted Herm out of the way badly since he was BP

317, ignoring me, who do you believe is Godfather between Wikey and Timmah?

FU Dadd

Curtis @ 9/11/2015 17:20

317, ignoring me, who do you believe is Godfather between Wikey and Timmah?

Wikey, because he waited until after i showed up and claimed my kill to lynch Ari. at that point mafia could have swung the lynch before i showed yet Timmah was first on Ari. now before anyone calls double standards since Wikey was first to lynch Redster, remember there were only 2 mafia left and a boatload of townies. so Wikey would need to look unquestioningly townie when Redster was lynched to have a chance at a long con.

##unlynch

cant tell if this is obvscum Curtis pulling a great final day or not.

im317 @ 9/11/2015 16:34

so Wikey would need to look unquestioningly townie when Redster was lynched to have a chance at a long con.

This exactly my point, and it's what one of them is doing and what I have not even attempted to do

im317 @ 9/11/2015 16:34

cant tell if this is obvscum Curtis pulling a great final day or not.

It's not!