schrauben @ 22/9/2015 22:30

##unlynch And I do agree with you JJ, you've convinced me, you might not be scum. And getting something or anything out of Redster or Curtis is going to be tough.

Well Redster already claimed. It's just a matter of whether we believe it and I tend to think no. I just saw him as non-mafia since he was SO against Herm but then we've seen mafia for each other in this game. Herm voted for Christian, Angi voted for Christian. But, his is very convenient and Ari is already BP so there's a conflict there.

Curtis should be pressured then. If he's town, idk why he won't finally decide to participate.

##lynch Curtis

Curtis (2/5) - Schrauben, JJ
Redster (1/5) - Ahoda
JJ (0/5) - Schrauben

21 hours left

Uh, redster is still here after a pt role caught him lying. Although my championing of a redster lynch, followed by a lynch of someone else, all the while no official vote counts seems to be the recipe for success. Boc is screwing this up by giving us a vote count.

No one wants to discuss mafia Angi clearing redster, repeatedly, Until she thought he may get lyched yesterday then voting him super suspiciously?

JJ. You championed BOTH herm and Angi. Don't start trying to pretend everything with angi came just from her side. We can quote a lot of posts where you told us how PT angi was if you need. And please tell the townies who don't know who is town or scum how we should know for sure that YOU blocked me or Ahoda or whoever and didn't just claim angi's role since you knew what she was doing in the scum forum? I don't recall you both claiming blocker, and I'm pretty sure we've had a ton of blocking and redirection claims and flips other than yours. So why do we have to accept no question that you are town blocker?

I get that it would be a ballsy claim when you made it, but you, who continue to dispute my claim each day, after actual objective evidence, expect us to just accept your claim no question, despite all of your protection of scum, and no actual provable, objective evidence at all that you are town? To the extent that you get super defensive anytime anyone questions you?

I completely believed your claim and thought you were town the last couple of days, but the defensiveness and defending of 2/3 of the mafia we know about is enough to at least raise some questions.

## lynch redster

I'm going to continue to beat this drum because #lynchallliars

/in before JJ omgus' me as scum again

Timmah @ 23/9/2015 0:39

Uh, redster is still here after a pt role caught him lying. Although my championing of a redster lynch, followed by a lynch of someone else, all the while no official vote counts seems to be the recipe for success. Boc is screwing this up by giving us a vote count. No one wants to discuss mafia Angi clearing redster, repeatedly, Until she thought he may get lyched yesterday then voting him super suspiciously? JJ. You championed BOTH herm and Angi. Don't start trying to pretend everything with angi came just from her side. We can quote a lot of posts where you told us how PT angi was if you need. And please tell the townies who don't know who is town or scum how we should know for sure that YOU blocked me or Ahoda or whoever and didn't just claim angi's role since you knew what she was doing in the scum forum? I don't recall you both claiming blocker, and I'm pretty sure we've had a ton of blocking and redirection claims and flips other than yours. So why do we have to accept no question that you are town blocker? I get that it would be a ballsy claim when you made it, but you, who continue to dispute my claim each day, after actual objective evidence, expect us to just accept your claim no question, despite all of your protection of scum, and no actual provable, objective evidence at all that you are town? To the extent that you get super defensive anytime anyone questions you? I completely believed your claim and thought you were town the last couple of days, but the defensiveness and defending of 2/3 of the mafia we know about is enough to at least raise some questions.

*sigh* I cannot wait until I flip and you either look like an idiot or... you're just scum like I suspect.

I never "championed" Angi. I believed Herm and I said so. Whatever you want to think, I would never push so hard to stop a lynch on a fellow mafia member, never. I would probably have just voted him. Not proof, I know, but I'm just not that dumb. We've been over this, though, again and again, so whatever. I thought Angi stating she was blocked when I knew I had blocked her was a townie thing to do but she did other things I thought seemed scummy that I called her out for.

I obviously know there's no way to prove I blocked anyone. I mean, what brilliant revelation is this to anyone? You can come up whatever you want against me, I've been very open about everything I've thought, I've given reads about each person and I think the fact that I haven't held back anything that I have thought.

And there's also no way to prove that it was YOU that stopped that lynch. I'll say it again, you could be a part of a scum team with someone else still there who did it or it could be part of your scum role. So stop with acting like you can prove you are Town Mayor when all you can prove is either you you stopped a lynch or one of scum-mates did it.

I would buy you more as town if you went after others as much as you do me. If you're really scum-hunting, then look at everyone because, while some people are more likely to be town than others, I don't think there's solid proof for anyone left. I would say Brian probably the most out of anyone but even that isn't a guarantee.

Also, I DID in this thread say the reason I think Redster is more suspicious now is because Angi flipped scum and had said she had "confirmed" his role. Why do you always seem not to read what I say? Which pt role caught him lying? FC? He never answered that question. If he did, please post it. I remember him not answering.

Why are you saying Boc is screwing us by giving us a vote count? Also, what do you think about a mass claim?

Also, why don't you ever vote Curtis? What kind of pass does he have to do nothing but slide by?

Your votes - correct any that are wrong or missing info:

Day 1 - Free Candy
Day 2 - Redster, then unlynched
Day 3 - JJ
Day 4 - Wikey, then canceled the vote
Day 5 - Wikey
Day 6 - No vote
Day 7 - Redster

So tell me which of the scum lynches you were on besides Wikey, who was not mafia. You've either voted town (FC, Me), Wikey or Redster. All game.

1. I'm voting redster, not you. I've been pushing that for days and have literally been scum hunting NOT on you since like day 2. It's not always about you babe. You told me days ago that I had to admit that the evidence for my vote made sense. It's time to face your own logic boo, you've defended scum to death in this game and not just one. Own it and understand why it's suspicious.

2. I asked free candy a direct question about Redster's claim. He said he didnt know if redster was telling the truth about his claim. He told us he targeted redster, day 1 I believe. Why does everyone just ignore this? I didn't pussy foot around it, it was a direct question that he answered.

3. The boc vote count thing was a joke. 2 straight days I've voted redster for lying. 2 straight days someone else has been lynched and flipped mafia. Both times we got zero boc vote counts. This tongue in cheek comment isn't that hard to get.

4. I've gone after herm, you, wikey and redster I this game. When I go after people it's because I like tossed the associations it creates. The wikey flip didn't help because he was solo. The herm flip implicate you and nofo, with nofo now flipping town. The angi flip implicates redster further, even if I wanted to do that one in reverse based on what appears to be his lies.

Day 6 I was on redster except half the day happened after the deadline apparently, including pretty much every post I made. (Hence the origin of my jones about boc's vote count). I questioned herm's role claim every day. I'll admit that I let you suck me into an argument and some tunnel vision that until today I thought I was wrong about.

Wouldnt it be easy to confirm JJ as town blocker with the mafia one dead? I agree its highly suspicious she has been allowd this far in the game with that role.

Curtis did you get blocked?

My guess would be 1-2 mafia left and 0-1 third party left. The jailor/bartender seems to be third party - would be weird for mafia to have another blocking role surely?

Anyone been going to the jailor lately?

Scrauben who have you been targeting? Wouldnt have been a bad idea to test Redsters claim tbh

1. Curtis - Both Christian and Angi seemed to want to lynch him. Kinda makes me lean towards not mafia right now but you never know.
4. Ahoda - Havnt been getting a mafia vibe from him but he hasnt claimed yet.
5. brian - Was attacked by mafia, directed by Nofo to Herm. Claims to have been to see a bartender.
8. Timmah - Claims Governor. Would be an OP mafia role (imho). Im leaning town for now.
13. Redster - Claims to block whoever visits him. AWOL. FC didnt seem to get blocked when he targeted Redster. Unless someone claims to have been blocked by visiting Redster, it would seem he is not being completely forthcoming.
15. Schrauben - Can personally vouch for receiving a message. Leaning town.
17. Ari - town obv. Not the GF!
18. J.J. (aka Buffy) - Claimed town roleblocker a long time ago. FC flipped a variant of roleblocker. If Redster is also telling the truth, I have a hard time believing JJ. Claims to have blocked Curtis yesterday, would be nice to know if he was blocked.

Id want to lynch either Redster or JJ today, that seems to have the highest chance of success.

Ari @ 23/9/2015 6:56

My guess would be 1-2 mafia left and 0-1 third party left. The jailor/bartender seems to be third party - would be weird for mafia to have another blocking role surely? Anyone been going to the jailor lately? Scrauben who have you been targeting? Wouldnt have been a bad idea to test Redsters claim tbh

After the message i sent you I sent a message to Curtis, who didn't acknowledge it from what I remember and then I sent another message last night to someone that isn't awol. I thought about sending it to Redster but didn't with him being gone.

Honestly I'm down for a Redster, Curtis or JJ lynch today.

I recieved a message last night.


Also, if you want a claim let me know. I'm not a bartender.

Town

1. Ahoda - I'll role claim if needed.


2. Schrauben - his role is confirmed and I can't see it helping scum at all if he was scum


Odds are town

3. Timmah - govenour role is town. JJ could be right about him being scum and scum mate stopped his lynch but how many scum would be left then? Also, with President and govenour that would have made the mos OP mafia team

4. JJ - If Angi didnt flip scum blocker JJ would be my lynch today. She has to be town


Not Sure Of


5. Brian - Don't remember what he claimed (or if he has role claimed). Is either bartender or scum


6. Ari - survived 1 attack and claimed BP. Could be 3rd party but due to voting I don't think he's mafia. Could be bartender?


Scum

7. Curtis - hasn't done anything but he was role blocked last night and didn't kill so he is above Redster , hasn't role claimed

8. Redster - his role claim sounds OP and unbelievable. Angi backed his role claim and Sugar didn't confirm it