Matt yesterday

My big thing about a gmaj anvil is that we seek to gain the most information to help with a lynch depending on his flip. With Herm, the only evidence we’ve seen presented thus far is “vibes” and we don’t get nearly as much of a logical lynch option from his flip.

This reads like advocation for the gmaj anvil to me. I guess it's possible I misunderstood what you were saying.

The Goose @ 6/9/2020 14:31

Matt @ 6/9/2020 13:12 i ALSO would like to point out that I was one of the main people advocating for herm during anvil discussion and i was then included in his "lynch list of quiet people" despite being in the top half of posters and legitimately adding to the conversations and ideas. if we're under the impression herm was learning about the day via telephone, would it not stand to reason that mafia planned to try to throw me under the bus due to my support of the gmaj anvil? So it's just a coincidence that you happened to bring up that you just don't understand why people cling to vibes instead of solving actual problems while I was debating what to do with the anvil?

this literally wasn't even about you lmao. People were advocating for Herm because they had "vibes". Others were advocating for gmaj to clear up the night 1 confusion. Seeing that I was in with the gmaj crowd, I was pointing out a general pattern I have noticed in my mafia return where people will flat out ignore the main issues being discussed to cling to whatever gut feelings they have and not really give any better reasons for it. The only thing herm had going against him at that point were people's reads, and it legit didn't make sense to me why people were pushing him over gmaj where the reward for a scum flip would have been more information in guiding our lynch choice.

How have I changed my stance on my anvil decision.

Matt @ 6/9/2020 13:31

Thisisbad @ 6/9/2020 14:27 Matt - "I am going to spend the day talking about myself but i'm going to pass it off as scumhunting and i will ignore the fact that not one single person is voting me" Matt, we get it, you are supertown. listen i'm just noticing a pattern here and hoping someone else can give some productive input into it lmao. i am not the only person who think it's sketch that zersch is changing his tune about his anvil decision when it's convenient for him. since he specifically threw my name out there as someone that he felt made him do it, does it not stand to reason that if he is scum, i would probably end up on the lynch lists of some of his other scum buddies to set up a viable alternative before this jackie thing started to take off?

I am trying to tell you as someone who goes through this on a regular basis that sometimes people just strike you as off. It happens all the time. You can choose to fight it all day long or you can just ignore it and move on with the game. But honestly you keep harping on it it makes me wonder if the vague vibes are right about you.
If your goal is to get off people's radar, you are doing the opposite.

The Goose @ 6/9/2020 14:34

Matt yesterday My big thing about a gmaj anvil is that we seek to gain the most information to help with a lynch depending on his flip. With Herm, the only evidence we’ve seen presented thus far is “vibes” and we don’t get nearly as much of a logical lynch option from his flip. This reads like advocation for the gmaj anvil to me. I guess it's possible I misunderstood what you were saying.

No I'm not denying I wanted a gmaj anvil. I still stand by that logic. If it worked out and he flipped scum we would have been in a better position to find other scum just based on the conflicting stories of what happened with him night 1. If we had killed Herm, gmaj still probably would have been the lynch and we'd have still been in the same position today sans the blackout last night, which obviously I would not have known about. All I'm saying is it seemed like you were quick to throw me out there as someone pressuring it to save Herm when it was really about the best possible sequence of events that could have put town in the best place.

Thisisbad @ 6/9/2020 14:29

Malion 🌟 @ 6/9/2020 13:23 Too many people are following my lead i hate it You are the 5th vote on Jackie, so only Perry is following you. so if you hate Perry, just say so. don't disguise it.

Ok no. I saw your vote for Z and in my head I was like thats a vote to save Z let me make my post and not look like a moron

Matt @ 6/9/2020 13:35

The Goose @ 6/9/2020 14:31 Matt @ 6/9/2020 13:12 i ALSO would like to point out that I was one of the main people advocating for herm during anvil discussion and i was then included in his "lynch list of quiet people" despite being in the top half of posters and legitimately adding to the conversations and ideas. if we're under the impression herm was learning about the day via telephone, would it not stand to reason that mafia planned to try to throw me under the bus due to my support of the gmaj anvil? So it's just a coincidence that you happened to bring up that you just don't understand why people cling to vibes instead of solving actual problems while I was debating what to do with the anvil? this literally wasn't even about you lmao. People were advocating for Herm because they had "vibes". Others were advocating for gmaj to clear up the night 1 confusion. Seeing that I was in with the gmaj crowd, I was pointing out a general pattern I have noticed in my mafia return where people will flat out ignore the main issues being discussed to cling to whatever gut feelings they have and not really give any better reasons for it. The only thing herm had going against him at that point were people's reads, and it legit didn't make sense to me why people were pushing him over gmaj where the reward for a scum flip would have been more information in guiding our lynch choice.

Okay, advocating for (not using the anvil on) Herm.

That's what I was misunderstanding.

Thisisbad @ 6/9/2020 14:38

Matt @ 6/9/2020 13:31 Thisisbad @ 6/9/2020 14:27 Matt - "I am going to spend the day talking about myself but i'm going to pass it off as scumhunting and i will ignore the fact that not one single person is voting me" Matt, we get it, you are supertown. listen i'm just noticing a pattern here and hoping someone else can give some productive input into it lmao. i am not the only person who think it's sketch that zersch is changing his tune about his anvil decision when it's convenient for him. since he specifically threw my name out there as someone that he felt made him do it, does it not stand to reason that if he is scum, i would probably end up on the lynch lists of some of his other scum buddies to set up a viable alternative before this jackie thing started to take off? I am trying to tell you as someone who goes through this on a regular basis that sometimes people just strike you as off. It happens all the time. You can choose to fight it all day long or you can just ignore it and move on with the game. But honestly you keep harping on it it makes me wonder if the vague vibes are right about you. If your goal is to get off people's radar, you are doing the opposite.

naw my goal is to let people know that if/when i die, and you see my role flip, these are the things to look back on to find scum. there's no guarantee i'll be here on day 4 to share this theory, so why not get my info and suspicions out in the open here while I can and hopefully lead town to find scum based off of the things i'm saying?

The Goose @ 6/9/2020 14:35

How have I changed my stance on my anvil decision.

it went from "this had the best logic to it" to "well i did it because people wanted me to", from my perspective

Malion 🌟 @ 6/9/2020 13:39

Thisisbad @ 6/9/2020 14:29 Malion 🌟 @ 6/9/2020 13:23 Too many people are following my lead i hate it You are the 5th vote on Jackie, so only Perry is following you. so if you hate Perry, just say so. don't disguise it. Ok no. I saw your vote for Z and in my head I was like thats a vote to save Z let me make my post and not look like a moron

Oh ok good. You are never a moron. Your post totally worked.

It was definitely the best logic - and people were clamoring for it. Both can be true.

I obviously made the decision on my own.

Jesus Christ this is frustrating.

good morning team

shall i post as i catch up on things? no, because the things i post about will be addressed as i read on? okay sounds good

The Goose @ 6/9/2020 13:43

It was definitely the best logic - and people were clamoring for it. Both can be true. I obviously made the decision on my own. Jesus Christ this is frustrating.

You should have stopped with “it’s my role and I’ll do with it as I damn well please” (:

The Goose @ 6/9/2020 14:43

It was definitely the best logic - and people were clamoring for it. Both can be true. I obviously made the decision on my own. Jesus Christ this is frustrating.

i'm sorry if you're getting the blunt of my frustration here too lmao because i feel the same way! my suspicion of you had nothing to do with your decision obviously, but it did seem a little out of left field that i got singled out as the main person advocating for the gmaj anvil when that was far from the actual case and i do feel that you had pushed that narrative, whether you meant to or not, and that set off some red flags for me. i'm not entirely sure what my read is on you quite yet but i don't want you to think i'm coming after you super hard because that's not the case.

Okay trying to be as objective and detached as possible here - the vote is pretty tight right now so lynching me might be a good thing. I'm obviously all over the place, I have a kill and other stuff that can be messed with so I'm a liability for actions and discussion. I'm also probably pocketed by several people without realizing it already.