PGO does seem way too convenient a claim here. However, I'm not seeing why spin thought a Miller and Hated Townie can't coexist. Additionally I don't see why a Miller role had a secondary aspect to it.

Lamps are you full PGO or was it 1-shot?

Lamps @ 27/12/2017 9:09

Also I have nothing to hide so I don’t really mind one way or another. I’m PGO. Christian visited me, he died, and it’s not because of HIS role but because of mine. That’s what I make of it since I wasn’t notified of anything.

Hmmm...surprise, surprise. You claimed the one Town role that would fit in this situation. Of course, it's also a role that is impossible for anyone else to investigate, making it the perfect safeclaim for caught scum to claim.

Not putting a vote on you yet because I don't know votals and I don't want to hammer the day yet. But I'm not buying this claim. At all.

Spin @ 27/12/2017 10:00

For those of you too lazy to do anything, I'm Town Miller. I didn't think it likely that there would be two negative town roles in the game, so put that claim with all the other BS Nofo was spewing, and it was an easy choice. I also get to visit one person a night, but I don't know who I'm searching for or what will happen if I find them. My luck, I was searching for Patrick, and now I'm just a damn fool wandering around at night. So far I visited Buffy and Helios.

Miller is also a perfect claim for scum to claim, as it gives a reason for why you'd scan anti-Town. Also, why are you claiming Town Miller AND also claiming that you get to visit someone? That's two different roles. And how is your searching role different than what Patrick flipped?

Helios Garabandia @ 27/12/2017 10:20

Spin @ 27/12/2017 10:00 For those of you too lazy to do anything, I'm Town Miller. I didn't think it likely that there would be two negative town roles in the game, so put that claim with all the other BS Nofo was spewing, and it was an easy choice. I also get to visit one person a night, but I don't know who I'm searching for or what will happen if I find them. My luck, I was searching for Patrick, and now I'm just a damn fool wandering around at night. So far I visited Buffy and Helios. Miller is also a perfect claim for scum to claim, as it gives a reason for why you'd scan anti-Town. Also, why are you claiming Town Miller AND also claiming that you get to visit someone? That's two different roles. And how is your searching role different than what Patrick flipped?

I don't think it's uncommon for searchers to both have searching abilities, right? I'm thinking back to our favorite Scooby Doo search squad that bread crumbed themselves into a VERY early death.

And no spin, you can't point to that game to indicate 2 roles were available to them so it could apply here (:

Helios Garabandia @ 27/12/2017 16:15

Lamps @ 27/12/2017 9:09 Also I have nothing to hide so I don’t really mind one way or another. I’m PGO. Christian visited me, he died, and it’s not because of HIS role but because of mine. That’s what I make of it since I wasn’t notified of anything. Hmmm...surprise, surprise. You claimed the one Town role that would fit in this situation. Of course, it's also a role that is impossible for anyone else to investigate, making it the perfect safeclaim for caught scum to claim. Not putting a vote on you yet because I don't know votals and I don't want to hammer the day yet. But I'm not buying this claim. At all.

Yes that is all very true.

Sebta Claus @ 27/12/2017 16:10

PGO does seem way too convenient a claim here. However, I'm not seeing why spin thought a Miller and Hated Townie can't coexist. Additionally I don't see why a Miller role had a secondary aspect to it. Lamps are you full PGO or was it 1-shot?

1-shot. I don’t see how this helps town but I won’t delay.

Lamps @ 27/12/2017 7:37

Sebta Claus @ 27/12/2017 16:10 PGO does seem way too convenient a claim here. However, I'm not seeing why spin thought a Miller and Hated Townie can't coexist. Additionally I don't see why a Miller role had a secondary aspect to it. Lamps are you full PGO or was it 1-shot? 1-shot. I don’t see how this helps town but I won’t delay.

Just trying to see if I believe your claim.

Did you leave any breadcrumbs?

Spin @ 27/12/2017 10:00

For those of you too lazy to do anything, I'm Town Miller. I didn't think it likely that there would be two negative town roles in the game, so put that claim with all the other BS Nofo was spewing, and it was an easy choice. I also get to visit one person a night, but I don't know who I'm searching for or what will happen if I find them. My luck, I was searching for Patrick, and now I'm just a damn fool wandering around at night. So far I visited Buffy and Helios.

What in the literal fuck?

I don't think I've ever seen you play this dumb if you are town. You first told us that nofo was caught lying, yet when asked what he lied about you refused to answer those questions. Then, you told us that your role made it 80-90% unlikely for nofo's role to be in the game, and then you decided to claim miller AFTER it was certain that nofo was getting lynched. Those 2 roles have absolutely nothing on God's green Earth to do with one another, and would have no effect whatsoever on whether the other could be in the game. Now, you claim to also be a searcher. This is just bizarre behavior for town.

Timmah @ 27/12/2017 10:17

Spin @ 27/12/2017 10:00 For those of you too lazy to do anything, I'm Town Miller. I didn't think it likely that there would be two negative town roles in the game, so put that claim with all the other BS Nofo was spewing, and it was an easy choice. I also get to visit one person a night, but I don't know who I'm searching for or what will happen if I find them. My luck, I was searching for Patrick, and now I'm just a damn fool wandering around at night. So far I visited Buffy and Helios. What in the literal fuck? I don't think I've ever seen you play this dumb if you are town. You first told us that nofo was caught lying, yet when asked what he lied about you refused to answer those questions. Then, you told us that your role made it 80-90% unlikely for nofo's role to be in the game, and then you decided to claim miller AFTER it was certain that nofo was getting lynched. Those 2 roles have absolutely nothing on God's green Earth to do with one another, and would have no effect whatsoever on whether the other could be in the game. Now, you claim to also be a searcher. This is just bizarre behavior for town.

I think if the situation was reversed this is exactly what spin would be posting about you. Good points

I do think the lamps thing is a bigger issue today though but spin shouldn’t slide by

Vote Count D3

Lamps (8/12) – Herm, Zersch, Nav, Darkus, Rose, Chris, Merc, Primate, TT, Spin
Zersch (1/12) - Lamps
Spin (1/12) - Bryce

I don't think I buy Lamps' claim either

Also, I'm flying home today and my flight was delayed about an hour so my layover is about 20 minutes now so I won't have time to check in until later tonight. I assume Zach will be around but if not, I won't be able to update the lynch count until then!

Asking if he should claim is what’s making me feel the worst about Lamps right now, not his way-too-convenient PGO claim. It’s like he needed that extra couple of minutes to think of it.

Josh @ 27/12/2017 12:58

Also, I'm flying home today and my flight was delayed about an hour so my layover is about 20 minutes now so I won't have time to check in until later tonight. I assume Zach will be around but if not, I won't be able to update the lynch count until then!

Safe travels, Jawshie!