Dadd @ 12/10/2017 10:32

Vlady and Spin are kicking the Nay-sayers ass in this thread. Just lock it up, I feel embarrassed for them.

I disagree.

vladykins @ 12/10/2017 14:59

Zersch @ 12/10/2017 13:53 A hotdog IS sandwiched between a bread bun, but is not a sandwich. I don't care about technical correctness or what a menu pulled from Google images might say, you will never, ever go to an eatery ANYWHERE and ask the waiter/server to list their sandwiches and hear them mention a hotdog. Nor will you go to a ballpark and flag down a 'sandwich vendor' to get your stanky, delicious hotdog. spin has already shown you a list of sandwiches with hot dog on there. We can provide more of those if it helps you all through this existential crisis.

:spin: :vlady: : The National Hotdog Council is wrong, Lester’s Diner in Missouri is right

Mercator @ 12/10/2017 14:00

vladykins @ 12/10/2017 11:59 Zersch @ 12/10/2017 13:53 A hotdog IS sandwiched between a bread bun, but is not a sandwich. I don't care about technical correctness or what a menu pulled from Google images might say, you will never, ever go to an eatery ANYWHERE and ask the waiter/server to list their sandwiches and hear them mention a hotdog. Nor will you go to a ballpark and flag down a 'sandwich vendor' to get your stanky, delicious hotdog. spin has already shown you a list of sandwiches with hot dog on there. We can provide more of those if it helps you all through this existential crisis. That only shows popular opinion, my god.

Here's the problem- I have said "Tell me one characteristic that hot dogs have that other sandwiches don't". You all haven't provided any. You then challenged with "No restaurant/waiter would ever do that." We provided immediate proof that this statement is incorrect. Again- this is how science works- not by holding on to a belief, but by challenging and then proving or disproving. I have yet to receive a single characteristic that is not shared by hot dogs and sandwiches other than the sausage on a hot dog is called "hot dog". It's not the lack of "sandwich" on the end, because I can go in and ask for a "brat" or a "BLT" or a "club" and the restaurant will not be confused- sandwiches is implied and thus doesn't need to be said.

Curtis @ 12/10/2017 11:43

Vlady doesn’t even think they’re sandwiches and is arguing just to argue, he told me in private in the middle of the night

same same

Zersch @ 12/10/2017 15:05

vladykins @ 12/10/2017 15:02 Zersch @ 12/10/2017 13:58 Also, it's called hot dogging, not sandwiching. The porn industry has spoken. That's because no bread or slicing is involved, unless this is what you are into, in which case I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't a "sandwiching" fetish site out there. But no, I'm not gonna look it up. I just looked it up. Apparently there is one person with this fetish. Quote But other fetishes, are more unusual. Like Chris, 45. ‘Eating sandwiches turns me on,’ he confessed, when he called to book Jessica. Sure enough, when she met him at his house days later, he had five plates of sandwiches made up, each with a 10-high tower on them. Ever the professional, Jessica did as her customer wanted, ordering him to scoff three cheese sandwiches, followed by four egg mayo, then three ham and pickle. By the time she was done, Chris looked ready to throw up. But he had a huge grin on his face.A bizarre turn-on by anyone’s standards. But Jessica says: ‘Who am I to judge?’

Chris, explain

vladykins @ 12/10/2017 15:03

Zersch @ 12/10/2017 14:02 vladykins @ 12/10/2017 14:59 Zersch @ 12/10/2017 13:53 A hotdog IS sandwiched between a bread bun, but is not a sandwich. I don't care about technical correctness or what a menu pulled from Google images might say, you will never, ever go to an eatery ANYWHERE and ask the waiter/server to list their sandwiches and hear them mention a hotdog. Nor will you go to a ballpark and flag down a 'sandwich vendor' to get your stanky, delicious hotdog. spin has already shown you a list of sandwiches with hot dog on there. We can provide more of those if it helps you all through this existential crisis. I just said that I don't care what the menu says. Go to that same restaurant, throw the menu out the window and ask the waiter to list their sandwiches from memory. Then apologize and retrieve the menu from outside. I bet 500 dollars they won't list a hotdog. Semantic shift, the vast majority of people do not recognize the hotdog as a sandwich. I would have from the restaurant I worked at. Though, likely, I would have given the proper name of it- all our food items were named for celebrities (such as Kurt Russell, who was the corn dog, while the Jane Fonda was a small side salad).

I believe you. I also like that stupid celebrity gimmick. Like the tex mex joint where you can order a taco salad called the Close Talker and other Seinfeld references.

vladykins @ 12/10/2017 12:07

Mercator @ 12/10/2017 14:00 vladykins @ 12/10/2017 11:59 Zersch @ 12/10/2017 13:53 A hotdog IS sandwiched between a bread bun, but is not a sandwich. I don't care about technical correctness or what a menu pulled from Google images might say, you will never, ever go to an eatery ANYWHERE and ask the waiter/server to list their sandwiches and hear them mention a hotdog. Nor will you go to a ballpark and flag down a 'sandwich vendor' to get your stanky, delicious hotdog. spin has already shown you a list of sandwiches with hot dog on there. We can provide more of those if it helps you all through this existential crisis. That only shows popular opinion, my god. Here's the problem- I have said "Tell me one characteristic that hot dogs have that other sandwiches don't". You all haven't provided any. You then challenged with "No restaurant/waiter would ever do that." We provided immediate proof that this statement is incorrect. Again- this is how science works- not by holding on to a belief, but by challenging and then proving or disproving. I have yet to receive a single characteristic that is not shared by hot dogs and sandwiches other than the sausage on a hot dog is called "hot dog". It's not the lack of "sandwich" on the end, because I can go in and ask for a "brat" or a "BLT" or a "club" and the restaurant will not be confused- sandwiches is implied and thus doesn't need to be said.

You are confusing me with other people.

God I'm out, CBF this, gotta work.

Serious question: You guys say a hot dog isn't a sandwich, but it's seems based on the Hot Dog council and what a waiter would offer if you wanted a sandwich.

So what issue are you having with the definition Vlady posted?

Curtis @ 12/10/2017 14:07

vladykins @ 12/10/2017 14:59 Zersch @ 12/10/2017 13:53 A hotdog IS sandwiched between a bread bun, but is not a sandwich. I don't care about technical correctness or what a menu pulled from Google images might say, you will never, ever go to an eatery ANYWHERE and ask the waiter/server to list their sandwiches and hear them mention a hotdog. Nor will you go to a ballpark and flag down a 'sandwich vendor' to get your stanky, delicious hotdog. spin has already shown you a list of sandwiches with hot dog on there. We can provide more of those if it helps you all through this existential crisis. :spin: :vlady: : The National Hotdog Council is wrong, Lester’s Diner in Missouri is right

I work with *lots* of trade associations. They are very much about marketing their stuff and the NHCSC is no different. If they had their way, they'd also tell you hot dogs are good for you and part of a healthy diet. Are we supposed to believe that?

Dadd @ 12/10/2017 14:10

Serious question: You guys say a hot dog isn't a sandwich, but it's seems based on the Hot Dog council and what a waiter would offer if you wanted a sandwich. So what issue are you having with the definition Vlady posted?

It is upsetting their per-conceived notion that a hot dog is special. But it's just a sausage sandwich.

Zersch @ 12/10/2017 14:09

vladykins @ 12/10/2017 15:03 I would have from the restaurant I worked at. Though, likely, I would have given the proper name of it- all our food items were named for celebrities (such as Kurt Russell, who was the corn dog, while the Jane Fonda was a small side salad). I believe you. I also like that stupid celebrity gimmick. Like the tex mex joint where you can order a taco salad called the Close Talker and other Seinfeld references.

It was actually really good food too. The Eddie Murphy was a burger thrown on grilled sourdough with swiss cheese and onions and it was incredible.

I still have much of that menu by heart. And that had to be 25 years ago.

I have no issue with the definition. A hot dog is technically a sandwich, I agree with this. But I don't think of it as one, and I just don't think a majority of people identify it as such either. Which obviously doesn't matter to you guys.

There is no answer to this question that is going to please everyone, because someone will always want to argue the opposite. And Curtis knew this when making this topic, devious schemer. I bet a day ago he was wearing a hotdog costume, mischievously rubbing his hands together at the chaos he had wrought. But at this point he has burned it in his backyard.

vladykins @ 12/10/2017 15:15

Zersch @ 12/10/2017 14:09 vladykins @ 12/10/2017 15:03 I would have from the restaurant I worked at. Though, likely, I would have given the proper name of it- all our food items were named for celebrities (such as Kurt Russell, who was the corn dog, while the Jane Fonda was a small side salad). I believe you. I also like that stupid celebrity gimmick. Like the tex mex joint where you can order a taco salad called the Close Talker and other Seinfeld references. It was actually really good food too. The Eddie Murphy was a burger thrown on grilled sourdough with swiss cheese and onions and it was incredible. I still have much of that menu by heart. And that had to be 25 years ago.

Suddenly I want Eddie Murphy for dinner.

Zersch @ 12/10/2017 14:16

I have no issue with the definition. A hot dog is technically a sandwich, I agree with this. But I don't think of it as one, and I just don't think a majority of people identify it as such either. Which obviously doesn't matter to you guys. There is no answer to this question that is going to please everyone, because someone will always want to argue the opposite. And Curtis knew this when making this topic, devious schemer. I bet a day ago he was wearing a hotdog costume, mischievously rubbing his hands together at the chaos he had wrought. But at this point he has burned it in his backyard.

Oh gods, now I'm all turned on.

POST PICTURES, CURT, YOU HOT SANDWICH BABY!

Zersch @ 12/10/2017 14:16

vladykins @ 12/10/2017 15:15 Zersch @ 12/10/2017 14:09 vladykins @ 12/10/2017 15:03 I would have from the restaurant I worked at. Though, likely, I would have given the proper name of it- all our food items were named for celebrities (such as Kurt Russell, who was the corn dog, while the Jane Fonda was a small side salad). I believe you. I also like that stupid celebrity gimmick. Like the tex mex joint where you can order a taco salad called the Close Talker and other Seinfeld references. It was actually really good food too. The Eddie Murphy was a burger thrown on grilled sourdough with swiss cheese and onions and it was incredible. I still have much of that menu by heart. And that had to be 25 years ago. Suddenly I want Eddie Murphy for dinner.

I make them here and there- it just takes some work to grill up the burger, then essentially put it on a grilled cheese. But it is awesome.