For now, I think I'm going to hold strong on my Vernon lynch. I don't trust the way he keeps jumping trains, and the way he was fine with taking out Greenday until he actually started gathering votes.

In addition, the way Ari jumped to claim Vernon lynching Greenday before Rob even claimed makes him trustworthy is strange to me. Before Rob claimed, besides Greenday's characteristic defensiveness, there was absolutely no reason why he was scummy. It didn't prove anything, and then when I commented on it, Ari got really warped about the idea that Vernon would ever come up with such a scheme. That's been bugging me for a while.

On the other hand, grim is always like this. I can't read it her one way or the other, so lynching her for just being there and commenting on the deaths is sort of ridiculous. It's just a stab in the dark against someone who never really contributes much either way.

Like I said earlier, it happens every game with me.

Dr. Fröken Drrr @ 19/2/2013 2:34

For now, I think I'm going to hold strong on my Vernon lynch. I don't trust the way he keeps jumping trains, and the way he was fine with taking out Greenday until he actually started gathering votes. In addition, the way Ari jumped to claim Vernon lynching Greenday before Rob even claimed makes him trustworthy is strange to me. Before Rob claimed, besides Greenday's characteristic defensiveness, there was absolutely no reason why he was scummy. It didn't prove anything, and then when I commented on it, Ari got really warped about the idea that Vernon would ever come up with such a scheme. That's been bugging me for a while. On the other hand, grim is always like this. I can't read it her one way or the other, so lynching her for just being there and commenting on the deaths is sort of ridiculous. It's just a stab in the dark against someone who never really contributes much either way.

Not trying to sound pushy, but who do you recommend then? You somewhat ruled out Rito, Jeff earlier, and now Grim

I've just been trying to weigh the pros and cons on lynching each of the suspicious people. It's why I was cool with a Perry lynch on day one. I just try to look at what we benefit most from

I think there's much less to lose with a Grim lynch over a possible Jeff lynch or even Rito lynch right now. I don't know who else I would want lynched today. Whether Grim is always like this or not, the fact remains that her behavior is suspicious, not helpful, and (SORRY GRIM) expendable

:P

Curtis @ 19/2/2013 2:44

Not trying to sound pushy, but who do you recommend then? You somewhat ruled out Rito, Jeff earlier, and now Grim I've just been trying to weigh the pros and cons on lynching each of the suspicious people. It's why I was cool with a Perry lynch on day one. I just try to look at what we benefit most from I think there's much less to lose with a Grim lynch over a possible Jeff lynch or even Rito lynch right now. I don't know who else I would want lynched today. Whether Grim is always like this or not, the fact remains that her behavior is suspicious, not helpful, and (SORRY GRIM) expendable

I suggest Rito! I've been suggesting rito! I have a vote on Rito! I've been getting flack all day for voting Rito! And he hasn't done anything all game besides run around jumping trains. He hasn't been helping to formulate theories and ideas. He's not trying to oust scum. He's just there and throws a brief temper tantrum every couple of lynch votes he gets.

Why do YOU want to take a shot in the dark and lynch someone for what you admit is no real reason? There is no "if she's town then she sucks anyway and is expendable" argument! Numbers on our side are numbers on our side and lynching her proves nothing. Even revealing she's scum proves very little because she DOES very little. I don't understand why you think that lynching a semi-active because they're lurky has ore grounds than lynching someone based on actual actions and voting patterns.

Rito has been sporadic and hasn't once acted like he was actually trying to take down scum. And when he is town, he DOES do that. He's not a mafia sage, but he's not an idiot. When he's scum he just slings a lot of mud and hopes everyone dismisses him as the town idiot.

The very fact that in the middle of a day full of posts you go "oh hey, semi-actives who don't do much! Let's just go for them" is :|

You've gotta have something better to go on than that

Actually I need to point this out

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Not trying to sound pushy, but who do you recommend then? You somewhat ruled out Rito, Jeff earlier, and now Grim

You posted THAT in response to me saying Vernon is scummy and I think Ari is shady and :|

Why would you even ask that!

Calm down and don't try using !'s against me in order to make my argument look bad. I MASTERED THAT!

"For now, I think I'm going to hold strong on my Vernon lynch. I don't trust the way he keeps jumping trains, and the way he was fine with taking out Greenday until he actually started gathering votes."

I read that as hold BACK on the Vernon lynch until you responded with that. That's the only reason why I asked you. I thought you suddenly ruling him out was really bizarre

I dunno man... I don't think me being on Jeff is going to do any good and hell if I'm vote for myself but I'm not feeling the Bito...

What is a Mal to do?

I've been cool with a Rito lynch because I find him useless, but too much of your argument has been based off of pure metagaming which you've admitted. Too much metagaming for me so far this game. I'm not saying that I won't lynch Rito because of it and I also know you have made SOME points against him that aren't entirely based off of his usual behavior, but the metagaming is just annoying me tbh

It was annoying me too, but I gave up on avoiding it after the 5th GOTTA BE SCUM THAT DRRR BECAUSE SHE'S POSTING HURRR HURRR HURRR post.

The thing is his entire posting history through this entire game is either a brand new lynch, or giving a terrible excuse as to why he did it and that he's not scum you guys. Since apparently that isn't helping to gain any ground (because lol its TLG he is an idiot haha) I have to point out that, no, he really isnt just an idiot.

I don't understand the hesitation to lynch someone who has done nothing but jump trains repeatedly and who joke lynched a mafia member twice then jumped off when it gained legitimacy. I don't understand why a random lurker target is somehow more revealing than someone who's actions have been shady and bizarre all game.

Dr. Fröken Drrr @ 18/2/2013 18:15

Quote NAW NAW NAW ## lynch greenday Quote why aint my vote counted ## i said lynch greenday Quote tss tss ## lynch boc henry I see you lurking bro. stop lurkin. Quote the more I see greenday post the more I see random-defensive scum in my eyes. as greenday says, "amerrrrrrican idiot!!!!" ## unlynch boc ## lynch greenday Quote I was thinking the same thing. Yep, I agree with Kiwi Smile That paragraph is one fine looking mafia written draft. If Greenday HAPPENS to be town then I know who I will target next! Not buying it. ## unlynch boc ? ## lynch rob Quote ## unlynch greenday ## lynch rob (: Rito Kanakiri @ 18/2/2013 17:38 ## lynch Grimapple for now ;) Rito Kanakiri @ 18/2/2013 17:55 Curtis @ 18/2/2013 23:44 Rito Kanakiri @ 18/2/2013 17:43 Now I am just as lost as ever. I'm thinking Mal could be a good vote. I am also thinking to vote for Gimpapple. How come? blind luck Rito Kanakiri @ 18/2/2013 18:04 ahh how the cards have come into place ## unlynch Grimpapple ## lynch Drrrr So Rose, all of a sudden oddly active in a game? I smell scum in the air. I was the first one to lynch Greenday on Day1 AND Day2 and suddenly I'M the bad guy!?!?!? LOL. No. You are going to die girl. I switched my vote to Rob yesterday because of the massive train that formed on Greenday. Suddenly I didn't believe in my own vote any longer so I switched to Rob. Oh well. But now the cards have fallen into place. With the wind behind my back, I can safely vote for you Rosey. Rito Kanakiri @ 18/2/2013 18:05 I would also vote for Jeff. His lack of words behind every post is really annoying.

Explain to me why this is less lynchworthy than grim lurking threads.

I wasn't saying we benefit the most from a Grim lynch, I was saying we LOST the least from a Grim lynch. I was trying to differentiate it from the Perry lynch in a way.

I fully realize a Grim lynch won't be eye opening one way or another. Though this discussion over it is MAKING it possibly revealing one way or another based on who pushed and who defended

I said that I didn't expect to get much support for the Grim lynch so you badgering about it is kind of strange. I just don't like the idea of her and some others sneaking by and having the game end with a few people who did nothing to reveal their hand one way or another throughout the game because they gave absolutely no opinions. I figured if we were unsure on a few people like Jeff, then this might be a good day to safely take out someone like Grim while we have comfortable numbers. And I really have a feeling about Grim after looking through her posts earlier. Hence my sudden change

I'll back off on the Grim lynch for now like I said I would, but I sure hope we don't look back on this if Grim makes it far down the road and we realize I was right!

A good chunk of it has to do with me not trusting you at all from the very beginning and the fact that you're the one spearheading the Rito lynch tbh. It's more about me not trusting you than me believing Rito

Though I could buy that one of you is scum and one is SK

Curtis @ 19/2/2013 7:11

Grimapple @ 18/2/2013 16:26 Oh shit. First reaction to two townie's dying during the night Remind anyone of old mafia? That was one of the first really common tells that I noticed among scum. The new day goes up, a few townies or a town power role dies, and the guilty people always go, "AW DAMN! Fuuuuuck! I'm pissed that those townies died, because I MYSELF am town!" Maybe a slight exaggeration but you get the point. I had noticed that post earlier and it stuck in my head. It might seem like a silly reason to most and I'd get it if people view it that way. But it just seems really fake to me. Besides that, Grim has done nothing but sit back, watch, and comment every so often on nothing that relates. I don't like when that slips by to the end completely unnoticed and I don't want it to happen here

Malion on day 2 said that it was "unfortunate" that Panda was town. He also talked about Boc / henry today. Dum dum dum!

Im also less confident on DR right now if the Neighbor story is true. I still think Malion is acting fishy. Vernon is acting like he always does, I still think that if Vernon really had a plan to make himself look better by lynching Greenday (how could he know he would survive longer than Greenday?) he wouldnt have pussied out as soon as it got momentum. Really seems like paranoid town Vernon not trying to give mafia an easy lynch....

Until you posted all of Rito's posts together earlier I hadn't even realized he had been around that much to post that many votes. I think I still have him on a mental sort of ignore from Lab :x