Tom Brady @ 21/2/2013 22:21

Ari @ 21/2/2013 17:17 I have this crazy theory in my head that Rob and Curtis made this plan. Rob throws Greenday under the bus Curtis throws Grim under the bus They both gain the towns trust But im thinking last nights kill was bussed to Rob somehow and thus killing Grim and Rob (Maybe part of the plan was hoping Grim would be spotted by a tracker / watcher / cop / random lynch?) Crazy crazy crazy So Rob and Curtis conspired to massacre all their scum buddies? Ok.

A person who has ousted scum is always very trusted..

It is a fun theory. Just incredibly illogical and inaccurate.

Though Curt could of thrown Grim out there knowing she had no realistic chance of getting lynched and now he looks like the golden boy.

I don't see it just yet.

Lynches:

Wikey: Curtis, Rito, Korr, Ari, Shawn (4/7)
Dylan: Rito, Kiwi (2/7)
LSFissue: Dylan (0/7)
Kiwi: Wikey (1/7)
Rito: Drr (1/7)

Just under an hour left, filthy humans.

I can see sacrificing one scumbuddy, but once they were down one mafia doctor I can't see scum!Curtis tossing their roleblocker under the bus as well, on a day when she had no suspicion against her and apparently thought there was an outed cop on the lose. Remember, they didn't know about Rob or his gambit. It's far too risky for mafia to go throwing valuable scum roles under the bus just to make themselves look good when there is still the risk of being hit at night.

Ari, you seem to have a lot of theories as to why people are scum, and nearly all of them are enormous leaps. But then again I think if you were scum you would be paying enough attention to notice that Rob was an unknown agent to the scum

Well it doesn't seem good sense is getting through to any of you!

I don't blame you guys for not caring anyway. I haven't been around enough to make a decent contribution. But Curtis is basing his argument on mistakes he himself also made. Its silly.

Dylan @ 21/2/2013 17:22

It is a fun theory. Just incredibly illogical and inaccurate. Though Curt could of thrown Grim out there knowing she had no realistic chance of getting lynched and now he looks like the golden boy. I don't see it just yet.

But he didn't know she was going to accidentally kill their secret scum bomb and be exposed as scum. If the lynch had failed we wouldnt know one way or another what grim was

Is it safe to assume that the mafia would of known that they had an extra unknown member? If not than no one probably could of guessed it.

Tom Brady @ 21/2/2013 17:28

Well it doesn't seem good sense is getting through to any of you! I don't blame you guys for not caring anyway. I haven't been around enough to make a decent contribution. But Curtis is basing his argument on mistakes he himself also made. Its silly.

If you are innocent, what else do you have to defend yourself? It's getting pretty down to the wire but whatever you have to say couldn't hurt!

Dylan @ 21/2/2013 17:28

Is it safe to assume that the mafia would of known that they had an extra unknown member? If not than no one probably could of guessed it.

I think most of the time when there is a seperate arm of the scum out there, they are informed that they exist. Rob's flavor says they dont know his identity and cannot discuss the game with him. It doesn't say they dont know he exists.

Dr. Fröken Drrr @ 21/2/2013 22:30

Tom Brady @ 21/2/2013 17:28 Well it doesn't seem good sense is getting through to any of you! I don't blame you guys for not caring anyway. I haven't been around enough to make a decent contribution. But Curtis is basing his argument on mistakes he himself also made. Its silly. If you are innocent, what else do you have to defend yourself? It's getting pretty down to the wire but whatever you have to say couldn't hurt!

I feel I have said all I need say but very well...

Curtis Today!

The chances really were't 1/3 at all. SK/Don/BP/Doctor/One shot BP

Curtis Day 3!

##Lynch Jeff After looking through his posts I've made up my mind He did nothing but say hi on day one. Why would mafia attack him after that? I understand if the mafia is KIND and wants to take out someone not adding too much, or strategic and wants someone that wouldn't be a likely person for the doctor to protect, but Jeff just seems too random of a target to me. I just don't see them wasting a kill on him Then he decides to prematurely roleclaim in his third post in the game. The odds are greater that he's mafia/SK/cult over a townie. The chances that the mafia got so unlucky by hitting the quiet one time BP are so low I think he's the safest lynch today

I initially said on day 3 that I was leaning towards Rito (after skimming through DR's argument against him) but was hoping for better evidence against Jeff.

When I returned, I figured Jeff was the better option. I thought the chances were good that Jeff would be SK or Don. Others did too, as I have shown you. I also dropped my suspicions of Rito. He plays like that every game.

Wikey do you have ANYTHING? You said good sense isn't getting through to us, but the only things you've posted since your return were some brief suspicions of Curtis followed by scoffing at Ari's terrible theories. I don't see a lot of good sense there.

Ninja'd

Quite a bit changed by the time I made my post about Jeff to the time you made yours. I was pretty much lynching him for his :| roleclaim so early, where as you just seemed to want to get the possible BP/Doc/SK out of here at the right time. I changed my mind later and really wasn't cool with the Jeff lynch and helped lead the switch to Mal, while your vote sat on Jeff

I aren't suspicious of Curtis at all...I am simply pointing out that he is basing his suspicions on me on mistakes he also made.

As a matter of fact I have a lynch vote on Kiwi. I think he is trying to hide in plain sight, throwing out lots of strong accusations but never really doing anything.

I don'tsee a great argument for you or Dylan being scum, but I think I'm being a bit cautious because I've been unbelievably offbase all game so far.

Right now, I'm annoyed with LSF and unsure about him because of the Rob gambit, and I wish Natalie would actually speak up more. It feels like most of her posts have been tallying or seconding someone else's suspicions, but there is nothing overtly scummy there. The only reason I bring it up is because it's strange to me that no one else has and she hasnt been considered at all.

Dylan's arguments seem to be mostly trying to brush suspicions onto other people and Ari seems to just be playing a different game entirely. I'm not sure where to go from here.