Wikey @ 17/9/2015 17:19

JJ @ 17/9/2015 16:37 I didn't like the exchange yesterday though, where you asked him to tell you the night you would die of his poison and then you conveniently had a different answer about YOUR poisoner. idk Surely it would have been more convenient for me to claim my poison triggered the same night as Candy's if I was lying? Before the start of this day, I was certain the poison would register as a survived attack in the day thread, and I wish it did, because I'd be cleared now. But let's say I was conveniently lying about my poison triggering today, that Candy DID poison me and that the REAL poison will trigger tomorrow. Well...what exactly is my grand plan? Because in that case you'd have to assume that I would be shown as surviving an attack tomorrow, which would immediately call into question the whole idea that poison related attacks aren't displayed publicly, ultimately making it look as if I was lying all along, and probably leading to my eventual lynch. Not exactly a great plan from a scum perspective, don't you agree?

Yeah makes sense. But maybe you already asked and knew it wouldn't be revealed either way. So, there are two poison roles in the game and one is a one-night delayed death and the other is a two-night delayed death? It's just hard to buy that part.

Wikey (4/8) - Angi, Ari, Redster, Timmah, Christian
Ari (3/8) - Nofo, Ahoda, Curtis
Herm (1/8) - CANDY

JJ @ 17/9/2015 17:25

Wikey @ 17/9/2015 17:19 JJ @ 17/9/2015 16:37 I didn't like the exchange yesterday though, where you asked him to tell you the night you would die of his poison and then you conveniently had a different answer about YOUR poisoner. idk Surely it would have been more convenient for me to claim my poison triggered the same night as Candy's if I was lying? Before the start of this day, I was certain the poison would register as a survived attack in the day thread, and I wish it did, because I'd be cleared now. But let's say I was conveniently lying about my poison triggering today, that Candy DID poison me and that the REAL poison will trigger tomorrow. Well...what exactly is my grand plan? Because in that case you'd have to assume that I would be shown as surviving an attack tomorrow, which would immediately call into question the whole idea that poison related attacks aren't displayed publicly, ultimately making it look as if I was lying all along, and probably leading to my eventual lynch. Not exactly a great plan from a scum perspective, don't you agree? Yeah makes sense. But maybe you already asked and knew it wouldn't be revealed either way. So, there are two poison roles in the game and one is a one-night delayed death and the other is a two-night delayed death? It's just hard to buy that part.

Well, it's hardly alone on the list of questionable features of this game, is it?

Christian @ 16/9/2015 22:13

And can defend yourself of course if you like, but don't expect this to carry on this whole day. We have scum to hunt.

HEY! I just saw this. WTH little Christian? Don't tell me when to stop! I am hunting scum, you're just trying to point me away from you. :P

There's no way I'm lynching Ari OR Herm. Wikey maybe. I'd rather lynch you or Curtis tbh.

Wiley.........if you were poisoned.....and Candy says the poison slow kills
.....then you haven't survived an attack yet.

##lynch Free Candy

I am falling for Wikey's line of thinking

Or Timmah's. Can't remember who started the TP talk

##Lynch Ari

Discussion time over. Time to get down to the nitty gritty.

Ari

You havnt explained where i fit in this game. You think im the don? That would mean third party primed jaya, jc and me. That would mean my mafia hasnt killed a few times, yet I havnt been blocked by JJ. How does that fit? Why would third party spend a prime on JC when hes confirmed town by Herm. Id target possible mafia if i was priming people. Am i third party? Possibly. Doubt anyone can 100% confirm they arnt third party.

Here is what I think. You are Mafia of some description, possibly Godfather, maybe Strongman, or maybe an ordinary goon who was protected by a Mafia Doc, and you were caught up in a third party attack last night. OR you are a third party who was targeted by a special type of Mafia kill. It's hard to say which.

With regards to JJ not blocking you and the Mafia apparently not killing on certain nights, I have some thoughts on that. For one thing, we are still making assumptions about the setup. You yourself have considered the possibility that we could be dealing with a Mafia who don't have the usual 1 kill per night setup. And I quote:

Ari

Maybe the mafia doesnt have the traditional 1-kill per night and this jailor Brian talked about has been killing people. That would mean the jailor didnt kill last night. Did anyone talk to the jailor tonight? Maybe they are the terrorists and triggered Jaya, JC and Me day 1-2-3 and chose to not trigger tonight, instead they flew the plane at us.

As you said, maybe the mafia doesn't kill every night. Maybe they have different modes of attack. Perhaps some nights they kill as normal, some nights they prime and detonate, or maybe some nights they poison! One thing is for sure, no consistent pattern has emerged thus far.

Ari

Wikey, you also havnt revealed the benefit in me counterclaiming you yesterday when you didnt even claim the same role, plus the fact a whole lot of town roles where already in the open.

I'm pretty sure I did talk about this, but ok, I'll say it again. My role, absorber, when it boils down to it, is essentially TOWN BP, X Shots. Now, if I was the TOWN BP and I saw somebody claim that, I would not hesitate to counterclaim. Because the chances of there been two roles which are essentially the same but one is way weaker is just...i'm not buying it.

You don't think there is any benefit in counterclaiming in this situation, even when you would pretty much have scum dead to rights?

It wouldn't be worth keeping quiet about all for the sake of maybe attracting scum hits at night. But maybe that's just me!

Angi @ 17/9/2015 17:57

##lynch Free Candy I am falling for Wikey's line of thinking

As I've already said, it's probably better to wait for Free Candy to clarify the issues we have with his role.

We need to settle this Ari, Me and Redster business first.

do we have a vote count?

I do think Ari should've called Wikey out more yesterday. It was día de cuatro, ¡Dios mío!, and we had lynched no scum, yet Ari votes for Timmah over Wikey, even though he doesn't believe Wikey to be Town BP? Also, Ari buddies up to me when he's scum. Otherwise, he usually thinks I'm scum. (yes meta)

NVM Ari did lynch Wikey right away after his claim.

Wikey @ 17/9/2015 18:01

Angi @ 17/9/2015 17:57 ##lynch Free Candy I am falling for Wikey's line of thinking As I've already said, it's probably better to wait for Free Candy to clarify the issues we have with his role. We need to settle this Ari, Me and Redster business first.

Although lynching you helps to settle two issues at once. Here's a real crazy thought. What if Wikey and Free Candy are on the same scum team? Mafia? Third party? Or maybe just Wikey. Maybe Wikey was priming JC when he was poisoned? By Candy. The whole thing could have been to put on a show for us. Candy claims he was protecting JC. Wikey, not possibly not expecting another BP to exist, claims that to make them both look like Town? Notice how they're not lynching each other today. Just one more possible angle to look at things from.

I'd say Wikey being Third Party is more likely than the he and Candy being on a team, but I suppose it's a possibility. Still, I think a Wikey lynch makes sense because it will help us sort out two possible issues.

After candy insisted hardcore that wikey was scum and should be lynched, today he lynches herm instead. I find that odd