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Pa Hupu
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| Post #241: 5th Jan 2013 11:39 PM | |
lol
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There are many recorded isolated incidents of slavery that are as brutal as the dogs thing, that wasn't too exaggerated. And I understood it as necessary to portray it in all its evil, because this movie is about the depravity of the industry, about undermining the people who say it wasn't too bad, because it is probably the darkest chapter in US history. Certain scenes were really heavy for me (the dogs thing, Broomhilda being branded), but they were also heavy for everyone I was seeing it with (majority white). I think it's genius that the movie was able to balance it so well, jumping from cruelty to BLACK EMPOWERMENT. |
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Rob of 2015
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| Post #242: 5th Jan 2013 11:43 PM | |
I just now got around to watching Looper.
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I did fundamentally disagree with Joe's decision, though. Yes, killing himself (himselves?) to save the Mom might have fixed everything, but in reality it probably didn't. After all, Sid still thinks the Mom isn't his Mom and will probably never believe her story, and Old Joe killing the Mom cannot possibly be the reason why Sid became the Rainmaker in the first place. The fact that he became the Rainmaker without Joe's interference is enough of a plausible reason to assume that Mom's guidance simply isn't gonna cut it.
In fact, if you actually pay attention to the movie, it agrees with me. Right before shooting himself, Joe essentially parrots Abe's speech about changing the future of a wayward kid. But... didn't that kind of epicly backfire on Abe? The guy took a bullet in the brain from Old Joe, AKA the guy whose future he changed and a guy who learned how to kill people from Abe himself. In essence, by changing Joe's future, Abe killed himself and f'ed up his entire world. Given that Joe's already accomplished the first part of that twice, I'd say it's a pretty safe bet that twenty years from now everybody's gonna be living in Sidworld.
Admittedly, killing Sid may not have fixed Old Joe's problem, because arguably Joe's contract would have eventually ended anyway, but to me the whole thing seems a bit like a "would you kill young Hitler?" dilemma, with the ultimate moral being that no, no we should not, we should trust an undereducated farm girl who is demonstrably less intelligent than a six-year-old to handle everything. |
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"If Rebekah could keep doing this, she could gain favor and become a ruthless dictator."
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Pa Hupu
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| Post #243: 6th Jan 2013 2:37 AM | |
lol I just watched it!
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At that point, there was nothing Joe could do that would absolutely prevent Sid from becoming the Rainmaker for sure. But there was a definite possibility of it happening if Old Joe, so desperate that he'd already killed two other children, ended up shooting Sarah. Rather than stare helplessly on, Joe sacrificed himself because it was the one thing he could do that could possibly stop Sidworld lol. And incidentally, I think the loving embrace between Sid and his mom showed that the events of the past few days had brought them significantly closer.
Great movie tho. It looked amazing, especially the exterior scenes on the farm, with their RICH SUNSETS. The shot that struck me the most, and was the most surreally beautiful, was when Sid was alone in the house with Garret Dillahunt. As he lifts him up, blood comes out of him in slow motion, from all of his body, and it is just awesome. Really wish I could have seen it in theaters.
The time travel logic is a bit screwy because of how undefined it was. See, if the characters and base plot weren't so compelling, I'd probably be way more unsatisfied.
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Dutchiee
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| Post #244: 6th Jan 2013 11:05 PM | |
watched the first bourne for the first time. liked it, | |
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Henry_42
damn right son!
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| Post #245: 9th Jan 2013 8:40 AM | |
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lol
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There are many recorded isolated incidents of slavery that are as brutal as the dogs thing, that wasn't too exaggerated. And I understood it as necessary to portray it in all its evil, because this movie is about the depravity of the industry, about undermining the people who say it wasn't too bad, because it is probably the darkest chapter in US history. Certain scenes were really heavy for me (the dogs thing, Broomhilda being branded), but they were also heavy for everyone I was seeing it with (majority white). I think it's genius that the movie was able to balance it so well, jumping from cruelty to BLACK EMPOWERMENT. |
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Yeah, that's kinda what I was trying to say. You put in words more adequately though (:
Django Unchained is more than "just a movie" one could say. I don't get why Spike Lee "hates" on it...guess he's jealous that a white man drew such a stunning pitcure of slavery times and at the same time embraces that empowerment aspect on such a fantastic scale.
Damn really, that scene towards the ending with Tarantino, when John Legend's "Who did that to you?" kicks in....it's PURE POWER....so many scenes that reak of power and emotions...it is INDEED one of Tarantino's best work to this day...haven't been that excited about a movie of his since Jackie Brown. Kill Bill and all that "new wave" stuff was okay, Inglorious Basterds was certainly a damn good movie aswell but Django Unchained is just, in one word, epic.The soundtrack is very great. Oh Djangooooo......just awesome. Favorit scenes. Basically the complete movie....from the top of my head:
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- Steven's first appearance. Just spot on and totally in the zone. "IN THE BIG HOUSE?!? :o :angry: "
- Dr. Schulz tapping beers, explaining his occupation as bounty hunter.
- Django whipping one of the Biddle brothers, Django shooting "Tom" ---> "I like the way you die boy"
- Dr. Schulz' little speech about Alexandre Dumas
- Candie's speech in Mississippi "What about my 500 dollars?!" That one take scene is perfection.
- Bruce Dern's appearance, aswell as Michael Parks' as one of the Lequint Mining bosses. He often gets to play the dude in Tarantino movies who analyzes the situation and tries to make sense of it. He's the cop in the intro of "From Dusk til Dawn". That character returns in Kill BIll. Also seen in the Grindhouse movie. He's great!
- "d’Artagnan Moafuckers" - Django kicking in the door and waving his guns, killing the Mississippi tracker gang
- Schulz and Django's chat at the table before they go to meet Candie for the first time. That scene was sooo Tarantino."Say, a man wants to buy a horse, NEEDS to buy a horse. He walks up to the farmer's farm, and he knock's on the farmer's door and asks the farmer to buy his horse, and you know what the farmer says? The farmer says "no". It's like Samuel L Jackson telling John Travolta the foot massage story.
- Schulz and Hilde speaking german
- Steven over Candie's shoulder at the table, parroting and agreeing with everything Candie says. "First thing's first"
- Candie saying "Wunderbar. A beer for the man with the beard""
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and much much more....best movie in 2013, and it will be difficult to top that IMO...Tarantino movies are so powerful. Should win a couple of oscars.
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Pa Hupu
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| Post #246: 20th Jan 2013 12:55 AM | |
Just watched the Fountain. huh | |
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Curtis
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| Post #247: 20th Jan 2013 2:08 AM | |
Django ruled
Just watched Safety Not Guaranteed. Boc just told me he saw it and didn't like it. I enjoyed it! Anyone else seen it? | |
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| Post #248: 20th Jan 2013 2:08 AM | |
Just saw Mama with friends.
Honestly, a bit whatever. If you saw The Woman in Black it's very similar. Just without Daniel Radcliffe to be fun in it.
The only really scary parts are the kids acting like animals, but that's mostly in the unsettling sense. | |
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Dutchiee
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| Post #249: 24th Jan 2013 5:28 PM | |
django came out here yesterday, epic movie. | |
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Henry_42
damn right son!
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| Post #250: 31st Jan 2013 4:20 AM | |
Gangster Squad - a good 7/10. I liked that it was fast-paced most of the time, but then again I would have loved a 3 hours epos to get a bit more depth to it. Cool action scenes, likable characters, visuals were nice. Some slow mo and camera angle turning effects right there. Was good! | "There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."
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Dutchiee
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| Post #251: 5th Feb 2013 5:46 PM | |
i saw les miserables
was ok for a musical. | |
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Curtis
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| Post #252: 8th Feb 2013 3:59 PM | |
Silver Linings Playbook
P. good! Bradley Cooper was actually really good in it, I was surprised. His delivery of the dialogue was great. The dialogue was a bit different and funny | |
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Pa Hupu
The Jewbear
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| Post #253: 12th Feb 2013 11:57 PM | |
American Beauty - I was surprised by how much I liked this movie given its reputation as being pseudo-profound, overrated trash. While I wasn't too enamored with the philosophical or symbolic elements the characters, Lester and Angela in particular, were really compelling and relatable. I wouldn't say the artsy elements detracted too much but they felt sort of unnecessary at points and gave the movie an artificial feeling that sort of DISTANCED me. I can see why it developed its reputation but it's still a strong movie with great performances. | |
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Feefiaggizady
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| Post #254: 12th Feb 2013 11:59 PM | |
I've always enjoyed that movie and I really don't like artsy movies in the slightest. It never felt like that at all to me. | |
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Curtis
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| Post #255: 13th Feb 2013 12:01 AM | |
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I've always enjoyed that movie and I really don't like artsy movies in the slightest. It never felt like that at all to me. |
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