vladykins @ 12/10/2017 11:00

DS from FFA @ 12/10/2017 12:12 vladykins @ 12/10/2017 9:42 DS from FFA @ 12/10/2017 11:22 Is it the verticality of the bread that makes it not a sandwich? Someone name a sandwich with vertical bread, if not, hotdogs != Sandwiches off that alone submarine sandwich/hoagie/grinder sausage sandwich (like a bratwurst sandwich) I've even posted pictures of sub rolls versus hot dog rolls that look exactly the same, but nobody took me up on the challenge of identifying them. Those are vertical out of convenience not necessity No, if you ate those sideways, your meatballs would pop out of your meatball sub. Again, need I show pictures of people eating subs versus hot dogs again? I feel like people aren't reading the preponderance of evidence that a hot dog is a sandwich, given we are getting the same questions. ;)

Okay so a meatball sub is a hotdog then

The way you hold a hotdog is different from how you hold a sandwich

DS from FFA @ 12/10/2017 13:05

vladykins @ 12/10/2017 11:00 DS from FFA @ 12/10/2017 12:12 vladykins @ 12/10/2017 9:42 DS from FFA @ 12/10/2017 11:22 Is it the verticality of the bread that makes it not a sandwich? Someone name a sandwich with vertical bread, if not, hotdogs != Sandwiches off that alone submarine sandwich/hoagie/grinder sausage sandwich (like a bratwurst sandwich) I've even posted pictures of sub rolls versus hot dog rolls that look exactly the same, but nobody took me up on the challenge of identifying them. Those are vertical out of convenience not necessity No, if you ate those sideways, your meatballs would pop out of your meatball sub. Again, need I show pictures of people eating subs versus hot dogs again? I feel like people aren't reading the preponderance of evidence that a hot dog is a sandwich, given we are getting the same questions. ;) Okay so a meatball sub is a hotdog then The way you hold a hotdog is different from how you hold a sandwich

Look again at this delicious hot dog:



Oh wait, that is a philly cheesesteak sandwich. But I guess that's a hot dog now too?

Again- how you hold a sandwich has no bearing on whether it is a sandwich, as has been shown previously.

OK, here is my quick definition before I go back to 340B hospitals:

A sandwich is the following-

A food item made from bread* that has been sliced (partially or completely through) post-baking, allowing a filling to be placed between and/or on top of the slices.

* Bread we define as a food made of flour, water, and yeast or another leavening agent, mixed together and baked. Bread can be further divided into the following categories: loaves, round rolls, long rolls/baguettes, crescents, and biscuits. **

**-Flat breads constitute a bread like the above, but their use tends to be different and not requiring slicing, so flat bread sandwiches may not be true sandwiches. Tortillas that are not baked or leavened also do not constitute a bread.

Your reliance on how a few hooligans from google images sling food into their mouth is disturbing

vladykins @ 12/10/2017 9:33

Zersch @ 11/10/2017 18:49 Vlady - pigs in blankets - sandwich? Go. Nope- pancakes would be a stretch to argue as bread (they aren't baked) and they are not sliced post-baking. That's how classifications work. ;)

So as long as I make pancakes and put them in the oven to bake, I can classify pigs in a blanket as a sandwich?

vladykins @ 12/10/2017 6:10

Curtis @ 11/10/2017 18:37 spindoctor02 @ 11/10/2017 19:31 The restaurant industry has spoken. Hot Dogs are classified as sandwiches. THE ACTUAL HOT DOG INDUSTRY SPOKE AND SAID FUCK NO ITS NOT Mercator @ 11/10/2017 18:39 Most people also think mushrooms are vegetables and are often put under vegetables. Does that make mushrooms vegetables? So illogical Vlady. No, because taxonomically they are different. In fact, you are making my own case for me. The fact that people don't say "hot dog sandwiches" doesn't mean it isn't a sandwich, because it share *all* the characteristics of other things that are indisputably sandwiches. I have also pointed out sandwiches that don't say "sandwich" at the end but nobody argues they aren't sandwiches.

In no way did this make your case, are you delusional?
You were using pictures of restaurants and links to wikipedia to "science shit up", when it is nothing more than what the masses think, or popular opinion, which is ironic for you to make that mistake when you accused Curtis of it earlier in the thread.

Bryce @ 12/10/2017 13:30

vladykins @ 12/10/2017 9:33 Zersch @ 11/10/2017 18:49 Vlady - pigs in blankets - sandwich? Go. Nope- pancakes would be a stretch to argue as bread (they aren't baked) and they are not sliced post-baking. That's how classifications work. ;) So as long as I make pancakes and put them in the oven to bake, I can classify pigs in a blanket as a sandwich?

Nope- it is still missing the post-baking "slicing" component. OTOH, if you bake a pancake, then slice it, then fill it, you've invented an entirely new sandwich.

vladykins @ 12/10/2017 11:24

OK, here is my quick definition before I go back to 340B hospitals: A sandwich is the following- A food item made from bread* that has been sliced (partially or completely through) post-baking, allowing a filling to be placed between and/or on top of the slices. * Bread we define as a food made of flour, water, and yeast or another leavening agent, mixed together and baked. Bread can be further divided into the following categories: loaves, round rolls, long rolls/baguettes, crescents, and biscuits. ** **-Flat breads constitute a bread like the above, but their use tends to be different and not requiring slicing, so flat bread sandwiches may not be true sandwiches. Tortillas that are not baked or leavened also do not constitute a bread.

So you can't make a sandwich out of two different breads?

How is Vlady still trolling a thread for 16 pages and you people still falling for it?

Vlady knows he’s wrong so he literally has to redefine the word sandwich to try to make his argument work

For the record I am against the notion that subs are sandwiches and reject this definition of a sandwich.

Pretty sure the original definition of a sandwich were just two slices of bread and then it has been expanded to take into account the popular opinion that subs and things like them are sandwiches.

vladykins @ 12/10/2017 12:42

DS from FFA @ 12/10/2017 11:22 Is it the verticality of the bread that makes it not a sandwich? Someone name a sandwich with vertical bread, if not, hotdogs != Sandwiches off that alone submarine sandwich/hoagie/grinder sausage sandwich (like a bratwurst sandwich) I've even posted pictures of sub rolls versus hot dog rolls that look exactly the same, but nobody took me up on the challenge of identifying them.

Look doesn't classify what something is. Ever. In anything, really.

And like I've said before, just because people eat something a certain way doesn't mean that's what it is. I can eat pizza folded up, doesn't mean it isn't pizza even if I tried to call it a hot dog pizza

Mercator @ 12/10/2017 13:31

vladykins @ 12/10/2017 6:10 Curtis @ 11/10/2017 18:37 spindoctor02 @ 11/10/2017 19:31 The restaurant industry has spoken. Hot Dogs are classified as sandwiches. THE ACTUAL HOT DOG INDUSTRY SPOKE AND SAID FUCK NO ITS NOT Mercator @ 11/10/2017 18:39 Most people also think mushrooms are vegetables and are often put under vegetables. Does that make mushrooms vegetables? So illogical Vlady. No, because taxonomically they are different. In fact, you are making my own case for me. The fact that people don't say "hot dog sandwiches" doesn't mean it isn't a sandwich, because it share *all* the characteristics of other things that are indisputably sandwiches. I have also pointed out sandwiches that don't say "sandwich" at the end but nobody argues they aren't sandwiches. In no way did this make your case, are you delusional? You were using pictures of restaurants and links to wikipedia to "science shit up", when it is nothing more than what the masses think, or popular opinion, which is ironic for you to make that mistake when you accused Curtis of it earlier in the thread.

No, science has classified mushrooms as fungi. While they may be used as vegetables, that does not make them vegetables, anymore than eating a veggie patty on a burger bun makes that a hamburger.

So again- I have provided a definition of sandwich that covers everything that is referred to as a sandwich (outside of flatbread sandwiches). This definition, by it's nature, includes hot dogs. So challenge that. Tell me what is wrong with my definition, which you can only do by providing a characteristic which hot dogs have that doesn't fall into the same as any other sandwich. That's all that needs to be done.

What people have done was tried to offer stuff like "You hold a hot dog different", so I proved, using net images, that there are sandwiches held exactly the same way. So this is not a characteristic unique to hot dogs and not in sandwiches. To say that is the defining characteristic is to then throw out a whole class of sandwiches. So I have not appealed to populism- I've proved that this is not a unique characteristic.

Again- we have a working definition. Challenge my definition. Come up with something that makes hot dogs different. Alternatively, you can hold to your belief that they are different, no matter how wrong that belief is. Those of us who believe the world is round will be waiting for you to join us.

Will wait for Vlady to host Sandwich Mafia after this