Buffy @ 17/4/2014 17:55

Tricks @ 17/4/2014 18:42 Yo, anybody want to post actual reasons why they find Cash suspicious instead of just wagoning him? Because I've yet to see an actual case. I already posted mine. But, look at his post on his suspects. Super vague and wishy washy. Plus, some of his reasons for certain people being town are really bad. Most of it is "I don't know what to think" which I think is basically just trying not to give an opinion and get in trouble later.

I didn't see anything wrong with his post, it didn't feel that wishy washy to me and the only "don't know what to think"s were on two inactives and Angi. If you're going to get on his case for that, why not Boc who has an entire section on his reads of "not sure"?

What do you think of Angi? I'm honestly confused why nobody else seems to be noticing how she's blatantly twisted or misinterpreted what I'm saying on multiple occasions and she seems to be constantly attempting to discredit me. Yesterday she agreed with Boc that I was a strong town read and suddenly today I'm incredibly scummy now that I'm coming after her.

##unlynch: Ahoda
##lynch: Cash

Made a pretty stupid point involving Angi and the town vanilla. I don't know where he was trying to go with that. Doesn't make a whole lotta sense. Also he just joins the easiest train it seems like.

Tricks, the decision has been made.

Tricks @ 17/4/2014 19:01

What do you think of Angi? I'm honestly confused why nobody else seems to be noticing how she's blatantly twisted or misinterpreted what I'm saying on multiple occasions and she seems to be constantly attempting to discredit me. Yesterday she agreed with Boc that I was a strong town read and suddenly today I'm incredibly scummy now that I'm coming after her.

talk about twisting words, I never said you were incredibly scummy lol I said you were starting to look worse for me. Oh, I did call you and Cash scum buddies because his reason for voting me was stupid and you didn't question it and ask for a legit reason for his case but you wanted one from those voting for him.

I don't think Perry Panda, Buffy, Wikey and Ari would all come to Angi's defense unless they thought she really was innocent. At least three of these people are town I feel like and at least Buffy knows Angi really well. I'm not sure if Angi's defensiveness is because she's frustrated because she's town.

I'm weighing my options right now. The thing is though, I don't see how Cash Money could be scum. You guys fucking convince me now.

I'm also not trying to discredit you lol What I'm saying, and I said the same to Ari but he didn't get as defensive as you, is that if you're going to come up with a reason to lynch me, make it fucking legit please. None of this stupid lurking, inactive, bandwagonning bull crap. Or Day 1, voted and ran away (despite everyone knowing about the Go Daddy issue) Yesterday I was feeling blah when I cast my vote on Herm and said right in the thread that I didn't have anything to add but was agreeing with everyone. Other than that, everything else I've done has been my own feelings. If you want to say "Angi's a bitch" then ok, but if I think you're wrong about something, I'm going to say so :-*

lol Herm. I didn't even realize I was being defensive. But like I said when Buffy was being accused of it, we all get defensive. Especially when if you know you're town but you have no way to prove it.

I don't like Cash's meta reasoning but I don't see why that's a reason for a wagon to spring out of nowhere to defend Angi. He also agreed with the point on active lurking. I think Cash is town.

Angi, I've quoted multiple posts where the point I've made and the point you've defended are completely different. I got the idea you suddenly thought I was scummy from your chainsaw defense. I'm asking Buffy what she thinks because I think she's town and I'm surprised she hasn't commented on the situation.

Wikey, I think you're suspicious because the only person you posted any slight suspicion on before voting was Herm, who you waffled on, and then you said you'd support lynching Cash without giving ANY reasoning. Now you're effectively trying to shut down any attempt to lynch anybody else several hours before deadline. That's scummy as fuck.

Tricks, if I thought you were scummy, I would have put a lynch vote on you. I'm not afraid to cast votes - You DIDN'T say I was afraid to, I am just saying I'm not afraid to lol

Angi @ 17/4/2014 18:07

I'm also not trying to discredit you lol What I'm saying, and I said the same to Ari but he didn't get as defensive as you, is that if you're going to come up with a reason to lynch me, make it fucking legit please. None of this stupid lurking, inactive, bandwagonning bull crap. Or Day 1, voted and ran away (despite everyone knowing about the Go Daddy issue) Yesterday I was feeling blah when I cast my vote on Herm and said right in the thread that I didn't have anything to add but was agreeing with everyone. Other than that, everything else I've done has been my own feelings. If you want to say "Angi's a bitch" then ok, but if I think you're wrong about something, I'm going to say so :-*

I'm not going to call you a bitch. I don't think you are. We're playing a game of mafia and my reasons are legit. I'm not getting defensive. I'm arguing that you're scum and trying to figure out why you could be acting the way that you're acting if you're not, because I don't understand why town would defend themselves as peculiarly as you're defending yourself from me when I've been making valid points and you continually dismiss them by defending against points I did not make.

Active lurking is consistently posting without actually having much content in those posts; essentially saying, hi, I'm here, but not doing anything all that helpful for the town.

Tricks @ 17/4/2014 19:01

Buffy @ 17/4/2014 17:55 Tricks @ 17/4/2014 18:42 Yo, anybody want to post actual reasons why they find Cash suspicious instead of just wagoning him? Because I've yet to see an actual case. I already posted mine. But, look at his post on his suspects. Super vague and wishy washy. Plus, some of his reasons for certain people being town are really bad. Most of it is "I don't know what to think" which I think is basically just trying not to give an opinion and get in trouble later. I didn't see anything wrong with his post, it didn't feel that wishy washy to me and the only "don't know what to think"s were on two inactives and Angi. If you're going to get on his case for that, why not Boc who has an entire section on his reads of "not sure"? What do you think of Angi? I'm honestly confused why nobody else seems to be noticing how she's blatantly twisted or misinterpreted what I'm saying on multiple occasions and she seems to be constantly attempting to discredit me. Yesterday she agreed with Boc that I was a strong town read and suddenly today I'm incredibly scummy now that I'm coming after her.

I hate an unsure section too but gave reasons. I'm pretty Boc also gave reasons but I'll go back and look. I don't know how else to say it - it's like we're reading two different things. It just stood out to me right away. He has you down as "pretty town" so maybe that's why you don't see an issue? I don't know. But even that particular statement gives no reasoning why.

There's also the fact he was on the Jordan lynch, and on Herm's train both Days 2 & 3. I recall you not understanding why he didn't go back to the Vernon train with you even though he had suspicion of him earlier.

His comment about not believing Angi's claim and then voting her right after Herm was kinda weird to me. Also, if he suspects Herm so much, why would he ever want to vote who Herm is voting? I agree he saw that as an easy train to derail his own and saw Angi breaking down and decided to capitalize on it.

In answer to what I think of Angi. I think she gets emotional and is really frustrated right now feels you are attacking her. I highly doubt she would offer herself up as an easy lynch if she were scum. She didn't need to claim at all with one vote on her but the fact she did, although I don't think she should have, doesn't lead me to think she's scum trying to pull one over on us.

Well active lurking then is typical me. I've said it time and time again, I'm not as smart in these games as everyone else. And 99%, I'm town. I dont' get that I'm acting any way other than normal, and I mean, normal this whole game. I dont' see any points you've made that I've dismissed and not answered, but I'll go back and read all your posts.

Right now though, you're not helping town at all. Just know that. I am town, 100%. So lynching me, is not helping. Although I'm willing to bite the dust if it helps town.

Buffy @ 17/4/2014 19:18

In answer to what I think of Angi. I think she gets emotional and is really frustrated right now feels you are attacking her. I highly doubt she would offer herself up as an easy lynch if she were scum. She didn't need to claim at all with one vote on her but the fact she did, although I don't think she should have, doesn't lead me to think she's scum trying to pull one over on us.

My bad, one vote at the time, but many suspicions. You're right, I made a mistake there.

Buffy @ 17/4/2014 18:18

Tricks @ 17/4/2014 19:01 I didn't see anything wrong with his post, it didn't feel that wishy washy to me and the only "don't know what to think"s were on two inactives and Angi. If you're going to get on his case for that, why not Boc who has an entire section on his reads of "not sure"? What do you think of Angi? I'm honestly confused why nobody else seems to be noticing how she's blatantly twisted or misinterpreted what I'm saying on multiple occasions and she seems to be constantly attempting to discredit me. Yesterday she agreed with Boc that I was a strong town read and suddenly today I'm incredibly scummy now that I'm coming after her. I hate an unsure section too but gave reasons. I'm pretty Boc also gave reasons but I'll go back and look. I don't know how else to say it - it's like we're reading two different things. It just stood out to me right away. He has you down as "pretty town" so maybe that's why you don't see an issue? I don't know. But even that particular statement gives no reasoning why. There's also the fact he was on the Jordan lynch, and on Herm's train both Days 2 & 3. I recall you not understanding why he didn't go back to the Vernon train with you even though he had suspicion of him earlier. His comment about not believing Angi's claim and then voting her right after Herm was kinda weird to me. Also, if he suspects Herm so much, why would he ever want to vote who Herm is voting? I agree he saw that as an easy train to derail his own and saw Angi breaking down and decided to capitalize on it. In answer to what I think of Angi. I think she gets emotional and is really frustrated right now feels you are attacking her. I highly doubt she would offer herself up as an easy lynch if she were scum. She didn't need to claim at all with one vote on her but the fact she did, although I don't think she should have, doesn't lead me to think she's scum trying to pull one over on us.

Now that you've explained to me I understand a lot better. I've had a fluctuating read of Cash, but it tends to match my read of Boc because I've been connecting them mentally.

That makes sense regarding Angi, and I don't think it helps that I'm getting frustrated myself, so I think it would be best for me to take a backseat and revisit this in an hour or so with a fresher perspective. I really don't like how fast the Cash wagon has grown, though... idk.