im317 @ 20/10/2013 22:31

Jimmy uhh, Baker @ 20/10/2013 15:37 Vernon leaving your (: aside, I find your claim suspect for two reasons. One, you're announcing it very late in the game, possibly in an attempt to derail the Nofo train. Two, Paco's role: Quote Paco has one particular obsession with a certain FEer, at any time choose a player, you will be shown the people he/she targets. You're saying that's also your role? I mean I guess Korr could have put two of those in the game ... Paco was a role that only got info one 1 person. Vernon appears to be claiming Tracker. i dont like people completely dismissing Vernon's claim because it could be true.

why would I be lying!

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Jen @ 20/10/2013 16:33

Curtis @ 20/10/2013 21:31 I'm starting to get the sense that the mafia may just be standing by and doing nothing right now now that you mentioned it, i've never seen shawn be this quiet in previous games.

I've finally scared him off. Who's next?

Frankenvern @ 20/10/2013 17:45

im317 @ 20/10/2013 22:31 Jimmy uhh, Baker @ 20/10/2013 15:37 Vernon leaving your (: aside, I find your claim suspect for two reasons. One, you're announcing it very late in the game, possibly in an attempt to derail the Nofo train. Two, Paco's role: Quote Paco has one particular obsession with a certain FEer, at any time choose a player, you will be shown the people he/she targets. You're saying that's also your role? I mean I guess Korr could have put two of those in the game ... Paco was a role that only got info one 1 person. Vernon appears to be claiming Tracker. i dont like people completely dismissing Vernon's claim because it could be true. why would I be lying!

i dont know, which is what makes this so difficult. if just about anyone else had made your claim we would all be lynching Curtis right now. i dont think we can afford to ignore your claim just because its you.

Nofo @ 20/10/2013 17:38

im317 @ 20/10/2013 17:35 i feel like there is a better chance of ff's claim being true then Vernon's and we cant afford a tie so ##lynch Nofo It doesn't mean anything if his claim is true, it's meaningless because someone else killed Paco. Not me. I don't have a visiting role.

i admit there are multiple scenarios where you are town aligned and ff is also town aligned. i voted you because of the 2 options i feel you are the better bet to produce useful information. if a 3rd and better option was available i would have voted them, but there isn't and we learn nothing from a tie

In a weird twist, I actually wholeheartedly agree with Curtis on the Ari front, Ari's made no effort to defend himself despite many suspicions. It will also give us tons of information.

##Lynch Ari.

damn it. i have to go out really soon. i actually also prefer lynching Ari but i dont want to make it a 3 way tie

Lamps @ 20/10/2013 19:34

Paulus @ 20/10/2013 3:32 ##Lynch: Nofo Could just be a vigilante, but I'd very much like to know who you targeted and for what reasons? It's generally very, very sloppy to vig-kill a player on Night 1. I was suspicious of Paco yesterday but I think if it were me, I'd have left that kill for a night with more intel. This post is from a while ago, but it confuses me. How is you being suspicious of Paco relevant for what you're trying to say here? Like even if Nofo were the vig, then he did not target Paco himself initially most likely cuz it was FF who puppet mastered him. So how is it relevant for you to say that if it were you you wouldn't have killed Paco? If someone did, it was FF, and you're not questioning him in this post.

I'm late, but the point I was trying to make was that a vigilante shouldn't kill on Night 1 when there's so little to go by.

But you're completely right. If Nofo was the vig, it wouldn't matter because the puppet master role would control the kill regardless of if the action was used. For some reason last night I had it in my head that the role needed to be used. Almost like ff was redirecting and not puppeteering.

In any case it's irrelevant because of the later BP roleclaim. Now I'm not sure what to think.

##Lynch: Ari

Why would me coming up as BP give you any information?

Vernon The Great

Great defense, Curt! Really solid, so your defense this whole time has been metagame bullshit saying I occassionally dont care about games? WOW. I claimed JUST NOW with no votes on me. I claimed because of a solid result I got. I see Matt die. I lynch the person who went to him at night. BOOM, done. I have the best scum killing ratio of anyone on this site. And... maybe you all forget this... but Henry is a GREAT scum hunter too. Two of the BEST scum hunters on this site are lynching you, and you must be scared. You would say..... anything.... to save yourself.

The highlighted part is where you lost me Vernon. You seriously cannot help yourself can you!

But I will just toss it out there that I didn't like Nofo's "lynch all the people on my train when I flip town" post. Those kinds of post always leave me with a bad vibe. It's a very good argument for causing doubt until you've seen it used for a few times.

If Nofo is town bulletproof, I'm not sure where he's coming from on this point.

##Lynch: Ari

He had a chance to defend himself, and blatantly ignored the accusations instead. Doesn't bode well.

All me being lynched would do is prove I am town and that FF claimed too early.

im317 @ 20/10/2013 17:52

damn it. i have to go out really soon. i actually also prefer lynching Ari but i dont want to make it a 3 way tie

There's plenty of time left and enough people around. If you think that lynching Ari is better then you should do it. There's enough time to avoid a tie

Nofo @ 20/10/2013 17:55

All me being lynched would do is prove I am town and that FF claimed too early.

Which we already knew.

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