I'm aligned with Wikey's bigger post.

1. I get the hostility from Igor is rubbing people wrong. But this thread seems less about working toward an actual "what we can do about this" solution and more of a bashing of Igor because you don't like him. Every person that seems to go against what he's saying seems to be doing so with an attack of his character rather than an actual stance on the situation. I won't say you're wrong and anyone can think whatever about Igor, but this thread got real silly. I feel a lot of the things said were putting words in his mouth. The sexist stuff I didn't actually think was being said seriously and I think may have more to do with other posts than in this thread. But like Igor flipped it on Zersch's comment, I think that's what is being done and it's odd. Igor was talking about this specific instance, so of course he wasn't talking about the broad spectrum of sexual assault victims. If you asked him about females and not about the Kevin Spacey incident, I'm sure he would have different things to say.

2. One of my closest friends was raped at a party once and she went through the same issues of who do you go to. But she is aware that bringing a case like that to trial really does nothing at all because it becomes a your word against his situation. And that's really sad to me. There is nothing really to be done except try to talk to any ear that will listen and hoping something prevails.

3. I agree with Nofo about if someone were to tell me they were sexually assaulted, I would immediately side with them.

I don't know if there is discussion to be had about whether or not someone should pay for what they did years ago.

In this instance, it's really tough to judge since it's something so serious and life-altering to the victim. But I think of a few instances of things said or done by people and how, even though they have potentially changed, grown, matured, etc, something dark from their past comes up and can ruin their reputation and potentially their current lives.

Or that time people used Trump's pussy grabbing line against him during elections. It wasn't said during his campaign, it was many years prior yet still brought to the surface and used as a reason why he shouldn't be president. (FTR I am not defending Trump as a person OR his qualifications as our President. I think his actions speak loud and clear on that. But this was just another example).

I'd be interested to hear people's responses.

concerned mother, where is the text to speech video

Agreed, just because you grabbed some chic's ass or something when you were in your 20s doesn't mean that you're a piece of shit now if you're like 30 or 40 lets say. There's different levels to sexual assault and every case is different.

Igor @ 1/11/2017 18:18

Agreed, just because you grabbed some chic's ass or something when you were in your 20s doesn't mean that you're a piece of shit now if you're like 30 or 40 lets say. There's different levels to sexual assault and every case is different.

it's not your fault.

Bryce you do realize Igor started the attack of character.......right?

Ahoda @ 1/11/2017 18:31

Bryce you do realize Igor started the attack of character.......right?

Vlady was being a cuck and his tone was horrible
Needed to be put in his place
Zerch attacked my character and I was defending myself.

Igor @ 1/11/2017 18:36

Ahoda @ 1/11/2017 18:31 Bryce you do realize Igor started the attack of character.......right? Vlady was being a cuck and his tone was horrible Needed to be put in his place Zerch attacked my character and I was defending myself.

it's not your fault.

Let's all just simmer down and focus on what's important, we probably won't be getting a Nine Lives 2

Ahoda @ 1/11/2017 19:31

Bryce you do realize Igor started the attack of character.......right?

I didn't say he didn't also attack character. I think he more said petty names though.

I was saying what seemed to be driving most of the conversation was dislike of Igor rather than actual discussion. That should be how my post reads.

let's not call people a cuck unless they like people fucking their wife while they watch

All I'm here for is calling Igor a cunt.

Because he's a cunt.

Nofo @ 1/11/2017 19:45

let's not call people a cuck unless they like people fucking their wife while they watch

No

ZacharyB @ 1/11/2017 12:16

oh boy

Nofo @ 1/11/2017 17:38

Maddie, you know Mark wahlberg is an asshole who violently attacked a gay man right?

My avatar is Donnie Wahlberg portraying Carwood Lipton in Band of Brothers.