Eben Etzebeth @ 8/4/2016 15:17

Christian what's your main list of suspects? Other than me.

What do you think I'm talking about when I'm here? Nothing?

I've listed my other suspects already. lol

Thisisbad and Wikey probably at the top of the list.

Christian @ 8/4/2016 15:22

Eben, I won't have any regrets about lynching you or suspecting you. I'm prepared to die tonight if you flip Mafia. And I'm prepared to vote one of the others tomorrow, if you flip Town. I'm just calling it as I see it. You say you've done nothing scummy, yet the other three suspects from the Zook list are voting for you.

It's an easy lynch for scum. Whichever of you are town are falling into such an obvious ploy.

Lamps @ 8/4/2016 15:20

Christian @ 8/4/2016 21:12 Lamps @ 8/4/2016 15:10 Christian @ 8/4/2016 21:01 Lamps @ 8/4/2016 14:58 This Canuck thing has turned into another gategate I feel like. Imo it could even be Christian despite how townish he comes across - imo Curtis and Eben have their moments too but it's gotta be one of the three. It's time to get this over with but I'd almost rather vote someone like Zero or Zilla just for the heck of it. why? I want the List thing to be over with because I know I'm innocent, and I want to catch that last bastard. :P If the other Mafia poisoned you, then you could still be Mafia. It'll be interesting to see what you decide to do, Lamps. Because Rose saved you D3 with her tiebreaker vote. oh, yeah, I can understand that. But I was asking why you'd rather vote for Zero or Zilla just for the heck of it, not why it could be me. :P Sorry. Cuz I don't freaking know who to vote out of the three of you! Leaning Eben, but his recent posts have me on the fence.

So then you believe the results you got on him were messed with somehow?
It is curious that you wouldn't try to investigate him again...

Eben Etzebeth @ 8/4/2016 15:23

Christian @ 8/4/2016 15:22 Eben, I won't have any regrets about lynching you or suspecting you. I'm prepared to die tonight if you flip Mafia. And I'm prepared to vote one of the others tomorrow, if you flip Town. I'm just calling it as I see it. You say you've done nothing scummy, yet the other three suspects from the Zook list are voting for you. It's an easy lynch for scum. Whichever of you are town are falling into such an obvious ploy.

Right, but there's likely only one scum of the three of us if it's not you.

I still think Boc could be third party of some sort. He doesn't seem trustworthy.

Eben Etzebeth @ 8/4/2016 21:26

I still think Boc could be third party of some sort. He doesn't seem trustworthy.

How would that work?

Timmah @ 8/4/2016 13:20

Looking at your list, I will also say that vlady playing "lost" like this is a giant red flag for me. "Lost" is not something that vlady ever is in these games.

If you can tell me which of Jay's comments are truth and which are lies, then we'll be in good shape. This was quite confusing, especially when he backed Rose's cult claim only to change that back later. Add to it that the deaths didn't all match up on the jay action suck (though it's been pointed out that the bodyguard may have made the other kill), the jay issue alone has been a big confusing clusterfuck.

Add to it that we have apparent mason on mason violence that hasn't been entirely resolved, we've got shady action from both sides of the Lamps/Eben debate, Lamps being poisoned (likely to throw shade on Eben, but is this a mafia action or do we have a one-shot third party/SK?), and the great Canuck conundrum----- almost all of which happened on a weekend when I didn't really pop into the forum at all. (I won't even add that I'm in JC/spin's mindfuck of a game at GLB at the same time- but at least things there are slightly clearer).

And you wonder why I feel/felt a bit lost? If you've got this all tied up, especially which of jay's statements are lies and which are true and helpful to town (as jay indicated previously) then I'd *love* to know!

Hermsworth @ 8/4/2016 15:43

Eben Etzebeth @ 8/4/2016 21:26 I still think Boc could be third party of some sort. He doesn't seem trustworthy. How would that work?

Canuck made it seem like his count of scum on the Zook lynch only included mafia. He didn't seem certain, though.

@Vlady - 100% of what Jay says are lies. Case closed.

Eben Etzebeth @ 8/4/2016 15:46

Hermsworth @ 8/4/2016 15:43 Eben Etzebeth @ 8/4/2016 21:26 I still think Boc could be third party of some sort. He doesn't seem trustworthy. How would that work? Canuck made it seem like his count of scum on the Zook lynch only included mafia. He didn't seem certain, though.

His role when he died made it certain.

vladykins @ 8/4/2016 15:48

Eben Etzebeth @ 8/4/2016 15:46 Hermsworth @ 8/4/2016 15:43 Eben Etzebeth @ 8/4/2016 21:26 I still think Boc could be third party of some sort. He doesn't seem trustworthy. How would that work? Canuck made it seem like his count of scum on the Zook lynch only included mafia. He didn't seem certain, though. His role when he died made it certain.

There ya go!

@the poisoning

I'm thinking each team has a role for an alt kill, probably a one shot. One team kidnapped Canuck and killed him, the other has a poison kill to balance. Maybe both are untraceable. I don't think it's some third party poisoner and both Canuck and Lamps made sense for scum to target

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Eben Etzebeth @ 8/4/2016 21:46

Hermsworth @ 8/4/2016 15:43 Eben Etzebeth @ 8/4/2016 21:26 I still think Boc could be third party of some sort. He doesn't seem trustworthy. How would that work? Canuck made it seem like his count of scum on the Zook lynch only included mafia. He didn't seem certain, though.

His role explained that his scans can only include mafia actually.

Curtis @ 8/4/2016 21:53

@the poisoning I'm thinking each team has a role for an alt kill, probably a one shot. One team kidnapped Canuck and killed him, the other has a poison kill to balance. Maybe both are untraceable. I don't think it's some third party poisoner and both Canuck and Lamps made sense for scum to target

This would explain a few things actually.