Tom Brady @ 21/2/2013 6:42

Curtis lol actually, now that I'm looking through Wikey's posts it's pretty interesting That makes a nice change. Curtis Wikey also threw out the possible Jeff=Cult leader theory to possibly divert which I also said. Looking back my theory about Jeff made no sense. I got mixed up thinking he survived his attack on the night there was two attacks. I get important details like that mixed up on a regular basis. He was attacked night 1 and survived. The mafia most likely attacked him, unless they decided not to kill. That is the only way Jeff could be a cult leader, and those odds are very small. Even SK is unlikely given that there has only been one night with multiple attacks. So Jeff is either the don or he is telling the truth. Curtis During the me/drrr/grim thing, I think the mafia would've chilled and not commented on Grim. They would've just let it simmer out like it was going to and would've focused on the other names that were being tossed around instead I thought it was silly to bring up Grim out of nowhere when there was more obvious targets, and I still think that now. Curtis Tom Brady @ 19/2/2013 8:06 Leaning towards Rito unless some better evidence surfaces against Jeff. I aren't going to cast my vote yet because I am going out for a few hours. When I am back I will read over this properly. Wikey said that during the mess. I would also assume the mafia would most want Jeff gone. The mafia probably thinks that Jeff is lying about his one time BP. They might think he's full BP or the doctor who protected himself night one. That means they wouldn't wanna risk wasting an attack on him again, they'd wanna make sure he was lynched Wikey comes on right after that last post and says this: Tom Brady @ 19/2/2013 13:27 If we lynch Jeff and he is town we know what we are losing a bulletproof townie, but potentially ousting the SK or Godfather. If we lynch Rito and he flips town, we have no idea what we are losing. The evidence against him isn't as strong anyway. The odds are in favor of Jeff been scum. ##Lynch Jeff Suddenly switches from wanting Rito to wanting Jeff, and lynches him. He's saying if we lose Jeff it's no big deal because we know we're losing a BP townie, which is weird. The odds were always slightly higher that Jeff was one time BP/full BP/Doctor, not Don or SK. Then Wikey said that it was :| if Jeff was the Doctor and protected himself night one, which I don't think it is really. We're all selfish, anyone would do it He almost fits the mold exactly for the mafia actions I was looking for earlier I suddenly switched? Slight exaggeration. I was gone a good few hours before I posted again. When I came back I thought about it and went for Jeff instead of Rito. The way I saw it, Rito could have a far more beneficial role, whereas Jeff had admitted his and I decided we would stand to lose less. I still think it is :| if Jeff protected himself on night one. I would like to think that if I was doctor and had made just one post on day 1, I wouldn't waste a protection on myself. But maybe that is just me!

Except, I'm not the doctor so there goes that, not convincing remarks my Tom Brady

The whole cult thing was discussed multiple times last round. About now Jeff could be telling us he guessed wrong on Malion. I was just disproving that theory.

I think unless LSF shows up he should be lynched. Unless someone is sure that Wikey or I is scum it would be silly to lose someone who votes on a regular basis.

And kiwi highlighting just the Shawn paragraph to throw me under the bus is rather scummy. I do believe I mentioned more people than just him.

I'll check up after class

##lynch LSFissue

Anyone I listed as a target Im fine with lynching

I still don't have internet Nat. But I DO have a cellular PHONE suckaaaaa

dylan scum

PS I also have internet at work

Oh thank god

Jeff

Except, I'm not the doctor so there goes that, not convincing remarks my Tom Brady

I know you are not the doctor. That is why I opted to lynch you rather than the more active and potentially more important Rito. He may not be the best player, and if he has a decent role it probably won't be used as effectively as it could.

I weighed the options and figured we would lose less if you flipped town. At the time I thought that unlikely. Now I am pretty certain you are innocent.

I am going to go ahead and...

##lynch Kiwi

I don't really get his reasoning for Dylan at all. I get the feeling he is pushing too hard for a lot of people at once, maybe in an attempt to look good.

It's weird to lynch the potential town BP or Doctor over Rito because Rito MAY have had a better role (based on nothing) than possible BP or Doctor. Especially since you say yourself that IF he happened to have a great role, he likely wasn't putting it to much good anyway

I dunno, I don't really buy it. If Jeff was anything but the Don, which the mafia knows obviously, then the mafia would 100% want him dead yesterday when he was a target. If they thought he was the SK, or lied about his one time BP and was full BP or Doctor, they would want him gone so bad. They wouldn't want to hit him at night and risk wasting another attack on Jeff, assuming it was the mafia that attacked him the first time

Not quite buying it Tommy boy!

I wasn't the only one considering a Jeff lynch at the time. I seriously thought the chances were better that he was the SK or the Godfather.

Rito was playing the way he always plays and getting called out for it. I realized that when I had time to read the argument against him properly. So the way I saw it, there was a 2/3 chance we would hit the SK or Godfather, and a 1/3 chance that Jeff was telling the truth about his one time bulletproof.

And if it turned out he was telling the truth, we knew what we were losing. Rito, Grim, everyone else that was brought up, seemed like a shot in the dark to me.

Curtis @ 21/2/2013 13:44

It's weird to lynch the potential town BP or Doctor over Rito because Rito MAY have had a better role (based on nothing) than possible BP or Doctor. Especially since you say yourself that IF he happened to have a great role, he likely wasn't putting it to much good anyway I dunno, I don't really buy it. If Jeff was anything but the Don, which the mafia knows obviously, then the mafia would 100% want him dead yesterday when he was a target. If they thought he was the SK, or lied about his one time BP and was full BP or Doctor, they would want him gone so bad. They wouldn't want to hit him at night and risk wasting another attack on Jeff, assuming it was the mafia that attacked him the first time Not quite buying it Tommy boy!

Or the mafia also knew mal was town and figured they'd go after Mal then hope everyone jumped on me today

Tom Brady @ 21/2/2013 13:54

I wasn't the only one considering a Jeff lynch at the time. I seriously thought the chances were better that he was the SK or the Godfather. Rito was playing the way he always plays and getting called out for it. I realized that when I had time to read the argument against him properly. So the way I saw it, there was a 2/3 chance we would hit the SK or Godfather, and a 1/3 chance that Jeff was telling the truth about his one time bulletproof. And if it turned out he was telling the truth, we knew what we were losing. Rito, Grim, everyone else that was brought up, seemed like a shot in the dark to me.

The chances really were't 1/3 at all. SK/Don/BP/Doctor/One shot BP. More likely that we were losing town

Just because we knew what we were losing doesn't mean it was okay to lose it. And we didn't know what we were losing, he could've lied and made his town power role seem worse. There was a much bigger risk with a Jeff lynch cause we could've lost something good

Ok I have to go for a few hours (band practise)

Hold that thought!

Great timing.