Tbh... Dayattack + vote cancel sounds like a single role to me, but it also seems like the kind of role that's powerful enough that it wouldn't always be available. Is it possible it was someone's ult?

Is it actually possible for someone to have had an ult available on Day 4?

-dr @ 26/8/2016 13:21

Drake @ 26/8/2016 14:18 You're all fools for lynching me! Every. Single. One of you. Your scum radars fucking suck since I'm not scum. You're all being deceived, don't be tricked! A bit over the top there (:

I don't know how else to get the point across that I'm town.

-dr @ 26/8/2016 13:32

Tbh... Dayattack + vote cancel sounds like a single role to me, but it also seems like the kind of role that's powerful enough that it wouldn't always be available. Is it possible it was someone's ult? Is it actually possible for someone to have had an ult available on Day 4?

Are you referring to Lamps? Because he did the vote cancel, I would think someone else did the day-attack.

There were two vote cancels yesterday. One was on TIB, the other on Wiley, apparently at the same time as he was allegedly attacked during the day.

-dr @ 26/8/2016 14:32

Tbh... Dayattack + vote cancel sounds like a single role to me, but it also seems like the kind of role that's powerful enough that it wouldn't always be available. Is it possible it was someone's ult? Is it actually possible for someone to have had an ult available on Day 4?

some of the people who flipped had cool downs on there abilities. that combined with most(every?) flip
having multiple abilities and the rules saying you can only use 1 ability per day/night phase could explain it.

Dadd @ 26/8/2016 13:32

Lamps role said he prevented votes ... nothing about stealing them.

Vote thief is how I'm describing it, even though it is more properly a vote block. :P

Ults are publicly announced @rose

-dr @ 26/8/2016 13:32

Tbh... Dayattack + vote cancel sounds like a single role to me, but it also seems like the kind of role that's powerful enough that it wouldn't always be available. Is it possible it was someone's ult? Is it actually possible for someone to have had an ult available on Day 4?

I've been estimating separately and it is possible but unlikely. A few people are close as of right now, but not over 100 on my listing.

I've been assuming, based on my own role, that the maximum someone can get in a night is about 15 Ult (10 ult for action and 5 for survival). I have an action that gives a variable amount of Ult, but 15 max is a good average guesstimate, since my variable role is very dependent on me picking correctly and I guess others are the same. It's worked pretty consistently like that based on the roles that have popped up as well.

Curtis @ 26/8/2016 13:47

Ults are publicly announced @rose

Good point!

Curtis @ 26/8/2016 14:47

Ults are publicly announced @rose

"- When a character triggers an Ult, everyone in the game will be notified. This will mention the character that triggered the Ult, not the player."

Curtis @ 26/8/2016 14:47

Ults are publicly announced @rose

O.

Good

oh, i thought that said probably publicly announced. oops

assuming no votes have been canceled this should be right.

Helios (1) : Vernon
im317 (1) Helios
Wikey (3) : Oddilus, im317, Drake
Drake (3) : Wikey, Timmah, Dadd
Merc (1) : Christian

vladykins @ 26/8/2016 14:47

-dr @ 26/8/2016 13:32 Tbh... Dayattack + vote cancel sounds like a single role to me, but it also seems like the kind of role that's powerful enough that it wouldn't always be available. Is it possible it was someone's ult? Is it actually possible for someone to have had an ult available on Day 4? I've been estimating separately and it is possible but unlikely. A few people are close as of right now, but not over 100 on my listing. I've been assuming, based on my own role, that the maximum someone can get in a night is about 15 Ult (10 ult for action and 5 for survival). I have an action that gives a variable amount of Ult, but 15 max is a good average guesstimate, since my variable role is very dependent on me picking correctly and I guess others are the same. It's worked pretty consistently like that based on the roles that have popped up as well.

I was just doing the math for this now. It seems like with 15 a night and 10 every day since people would have theirs by now. I can't actually go through everyone to see if anyone qualifies for that though

-dr @ 26/8/2016 14:02

vladykins @ 26/8/2016 14:47 -dr @ 26/8/2016 13:32 Tbh... Dayattack + vote cancel sounds like a single role to me, but it also seems like the kind of role that's powerful enough that it wouldn't always be available. Is it possible it was someone's ult? Is it actually possible for someone to have had an ult available on Day 4? I've been estimating separately and it is possible but unlikely. A few people are close as of right now, but not over 100 on my listing. I've been assuming, based on my own role, that the maximum someone can get in a night is about 15 Ult (10 ult for action and 5 for survival). I have an action that gives a variable amount of Ult, but 15 max is a good average guesstimate, since my variable role is very dependent on me picking correctly and I guess others are the same. It's worked pretty consistently like that based on the roles that have popped up as well. I was just doing the math for this now. It seems like with 15 a night and 10 every day since people would have theirs by now. I can't actually go through everyone to see if anyone qualifies for that though

Mine includes voting patterns and estimating for scum versus townie roles, which can flip Ult points 10 per day if you were on a train. (15 to 5).

Yes, the economist in me is coming out with assumptions and estimates. :)