Ben @ 22/4/2016 21:51

I'm sure Chris has no fucking idea what it takes to mod a game. Nit

Well I would think the first thing it would take to mod a game would be to stick to the rules that are laid down at the beginning of the game and not to change things as shit goes along.

The only reason you're talking shit at this point is because I've made all of the mods in the game look like fucking idiots with their heads up their asses.

Did town lose the game based on the win conditions set at the beginning of the game? YUP

Did the mafia lose the game based on the win conditions set at the beginning of the game? YUPPPPPPP


Did the cult lose the game based on the win conditions set at the beginning of the game BY THESE SO CALLED GREAT MODS THAT ARE JUST INNOCENT VICTIMS TO CHRIS'S BUTT-HURTEDNESS? TRIPLE FUCKIN YUPPPP

Don't feed me this line of shit that I'm just bitching because I lost, I'm bitching because according to YOUR RULES THAT YOU MADE at the beginning of the game, fucking Jay lost too. Yet you crowned him King Shit of retard mountain anyways because you all suck each others cock AND THATS LITERALLY THE ONLY REASON.


And I keep pointing that out over and over and over again, and none of you have yet to dispute that FACT.


You can be dismissive all you fucking want to but that doesn't change the fact that you all FUCKING SUCK as mods because you can't even follow your own rules that you made.

And if any more of you cunts want to come at me and rant go right ahead but please try to ADDRESS THE ACTUAL ISSUE AT HAND and not just talk shit because I'm calling you out on your GHB circle jerking bullshit.

Hey guys, I've been busy doing important things. Like super important things. Did I miss the poll to decide who won?

Chris25 @ 22/4/2016 22:59

Ben @ 22/4/2016 21:51 I'm sure Chris has no fucking idea what it takes to mod a game. Nit Well I would think the first thing it would take to mod a game would be to stick to the rules that are laid down at the beginning of the game and not to change things as shit goes along. The only reason you're talking shit at this point is because I've made all of the mods in the game look like fucking idiots with their heads up their asses. Did town lose the game based on the win conditions set at the beginning of the game? YUP Did the mafia lose the game based on the win conditions set at the beginning of the game? YUPPPPPPP Did the cult lose the game based on the win conditions set at the beginning of the game BY THESE SO CALLED GREAT MODS THAT ARE JUST INNOCENT VICTIMS TO CHRIS'S BUTT-HURTEDNESS? TRIPLE FUCKIN YUPPPP Don't feed me this line of shit that I'm just bitching because I lost, I'm bitching because according to YOUR RULES THAT YOU MADE at the beginning of the game, fucking Jay lost too. Yet you crowned him King Shit of retard mountain anyways because you all suck each others cock AND THATS LITERALLY THE ONLY REASON. And I keep pointing that out over and over and over again, and none of you have yet to dispute that FACT. You can be dismissive all you fucking want to but that doesn't change the fact that you all FUCKING SUCK as mods because you can't even follow your own rules that you made. And if any more of you cunts want to come at me and rant go right ahead but please try to ADDRESS THE ACTUAL ISSUE AT HAND and not just talk shit because I'm calling you out on your GHB circle jerking bullshit.

Don't lump me in with those chumps, I was only a mod to get my name listed with the game to piss people off. Ahoda even conned me into doing a couple of vote counts. Other than that, I couldn't have told you anything that went into the game one bit.

All I can tell you is what I would have done if I was the mod of this game. And that is to do exactly the same thing that happened here. Sure, Cult is supposed to outnumber the town, thus the 51% win condition. HOWEVER, when it gets to the end of the game, the onerous is on the Town to WIN the game, by eliminating their competition. ONLY when they eliminate all competition do they win. Until they reach that goal, they haven't won. If the game gets down to 1 town vs. 1 anti-town, then the anti-town wins, because the Town can not change the ratio, even though cult hasn't met their game starting win condition.

So, even if I had some say over who won/lost this game (I didn't), I would have had Cult win over Town with the 1-1 ending. I understand you are upset because you don't think the mod(s) followed their own rules (trust me, I get people not following posted rules - ask any GLB guy about that), but in the end, the mod(s) made a call and gave the game to the anti-town faction because town never met (nor could they ever meet) their win condition.

Actually, now that I think about it, I've had a number of games in the past get to 1v1 at the end, and neither party could kill at night. I think we did rock-paper-scissors (best of 3) one time, and another one there was a competition for a day kill attempt. But, in each of those cases, it was town v. town, so not town v 3rd party like happened here.

JC @ 22/4/2016 23:39

Chris25 @ 22/4/2016 22:59 Ben @ 22/4/2016 21:51 I'm sure Chris has no fucking idea what it takes to mod a game. Nit Well I would think the first thing it would take to mod a game would be to stick to the rules that are laid down at the beginning of the game and not to change things as shit goes along. The only reason you're talking shit at this point is because I've made all of the mods in the game look like fucking idiots with their heads up their asses. Did town lose the game based on the win conditions set at the beginning of the game? YUP Did the mafia lose the game based on the win conditions set at the beginning of the game? YUPPPPPPP Did the cult lose the game based on the win conditions set at the beginning of the game BY THESE SO CALLED GREAT MODS THAT ARE JUST INNOCENT VICTIMS TO CHRIS'S BUTT-HURTEDNESS? TRIPLE FUCKIN YUPPPP Don't feed me this line of shit that I'm just bitching because I lost, I'm bitching because according to YOUR RULES THAT YOU MADE at the beginning of the game, fucking Jay lost too. Yet you crowned him King Shit of retard mountain anyways because you all suck each others cock AND THATS LITERALLY THE ONLY REASON. And I keep pointing that out over and over and over again, and none of you have yet to dispute that FACT. You can be dismissive all you fucking want to but that doesn't change the fact that you all FUCKING SUCK as mods because you can't even follow your own rules that you made. And if any more of you cunts want to come at me and rant go right ahead but please try to ADDRESS THE ACTUAL ISSUE AT HAND and not just talk shit because I'm calling you out on your GHB circle jerking bullshit. Don't lump me in with those chumps, I was only a mod to get my name listed with the game to piss people off. Ahoda even conned me into doing a couple of vote counts. Other than that, I couldn't have told you anything that went into the game one bit. All I can tell you is what I would have done if I was the mod of this game. And that is to do exactly the same thing that happened here. Sure, Cult is supposed to outnumber the town, thus the 51% win condition. HOWEVER, when it gets to the end of the game, the onerous is on the Town to WIN the game, by eliminating their competition. ONLY when they eliminate all competition do they win. Until they reach that goal, they haven't won. If the game gets down to 1 town vs. 1 anti-town, then the anti-town wins, because the Town can not change the ratio, even though cult hasn't met their game starting win condition. So, even if I had some say over who won/lost this game (I didn't), I would have had Cult win over Town with the 1-1 ending. I understand you are upset because you don't think the mod(s) followed their own rules (trust me, I get people not following posted rules - ask any GLB guy about that), but in the end, the mod(s) made a call and gave the game to the anti-town faction because town never met (nor could they ever meet) their win condition.

OK Thank God, someone actually addressing the issues at hand. Thank you JC.

I get what you're saying and you're saying that they made the call because their was no way that Town could ever meet their win condition.

My entire argument is that in the same vein, Cult could also never meet their win condition.

So to punish Town for not being able to make their win condition In my opinion is unfair if you the mods are going to reward Cult for basically the same thing.

The only reason I've been arguing this whole time is because I wanted to know if the mods just based their handing Jay the victory based on him being a GHBer or if they just decided to ignore their own rules because it suited them.

I understand you were not involved in the decision making process so I will remove your name from the current list of shit eating cocksuckers that did a terrible job modding this game. Thanks again JC.

JC @ 23/4/2016 0:39

I was only a mod to get my name listed with the game to piss people off.

+1 JC

HOWEVER, when it gets to the end of the game, the onerous is on the Cult to WIN the game, by eliminating their competition. ONLY when they eliminate all competition do they win. Until they reach that goal, they haven't won. If the game gets down to 1 cult vs. 1 town, then the town wins, because the Cult can not change the ratio, even though town hasn't met their game starting win condition.

JC @ 22/4/2016 21:41

Actually, now that I think about it, I've had a number of games in the past get to 1v1 at the end, and neither party could kill at night. I think we did rock-paper-scissors (best of 3) one time, and another one there was a competition for a day kill attempt. But, in each of those cases, it was town v. town, so not town v 3rd party like happened here.

Town vs town isn't possible, the town is a whole, everyone is not a survivor...

Mercator @ 23/4/2016 0:10

JC @ 22/4/2016 21:41 Actually, now that I think about it, I've had a number of games in the past get to 1v1 at the end, and neither party could kill at night. I think we did rock-paper-scissors (best of 3) one time, and another one there was a competition for a day kill attempt. But, in each of those cases, it was town v. town, so not town v 3rd party like happened here. Town vs town isn't possible, the town is a whole, everyone is not a survivor...

I said Town but meant "Town" because in those games there wasn't really town and mafia. It was more of a "free for all" type of game. People actually really enjoyed it.

Mercator @ 22/4/2016 23:55

HOWEVER, when it gets to the end of the game, the onerous is on the Cult to WIN the game, by eliminating their competition. ONLY when they eliminate all competition do they win. Until they reach that goal, they haven't won. If the game gets down to 1 cult vs. 1 town, then the town wins, because the Cult can not change the ratio, even though town hasn't met their game starting win condition.

If that's how you want to run a game, then go for it. It's not how I'd do it, but to each his own.

Buffy @ 22/4/2016 23:46

JC @ 23/4/2016 0:39 I was only a mod to get my name listed with the game to piss people off. +1 JC

Did it work?

Is there a rulebook somewhere?

Mafia Scum Wiki thing

The Cult wins when it comprises half of the player list, at which time it controls the lynch and trivializes the rest of the game.

This is what I found about cult for what it's worth.

I just read day 14 again. Looks like town won.