Hermsworth @ 6/4/2016 7:45

I'd lynch Eben and Rose over Lamps at this point, just saying.

I'm suspicious of you, and everyone lamps got "results" on.

Just when I thought things couldn't get any more bizarre in this game. You guys never disappoint!

So, now we have:

2 of Curtis, Eben, Christian, Boc and Dr as definite mafia;

Jay and Dr as claimed Cult;

And now, 2 MORE people saying Lamps HAS TO BE scum.

If I had to rank these players from best lynch to worst, I think I'd have to say:

1. Eben OR Lamps - one of them is pretty clearly lying, and very likely to be mafia; Eben's attempts to self-clear himself using the fact that he was on Redster pings as a scum move to me in light of the idea that we might well be dealing with two mafias; Eben is also one of the Cannuck list; As for Lamps, Dr backing up Jay's last info makes me feel slightly better that he may have finally been telling the truth;

2. Curtis - On the Cannuck list; has seemed to me to be "trying" without really trying, if that makes any sense, almost as if he's resigned to his fate...

3. Jay - admitted Cult; created ALL THE CHAOS

4. Dr - admitted Cult; caught in a lie once already, and I believe Mal's claim; Also on the Cannuck list

5. Christian - I get more of a town vibe from him than the others; Has been actively trying to help it seems; but, he has been pretty defensive at times

6. Boc - I was positive he was Cult with the way that he outed King Z, but with Dr's revelation, I think that's less likely to be the case. Can't see him as mafia with the way that Z situation played out.

Now, for some thoughts outside the lists we've pigeon holed ourselves into:

Zero - I got the distinct feeling that he was trying to lead us away from the Cannuck list yesterday, and make sure we lynched from the cult/lamps fiasco.

Zilla - who? what? when? where?

Ari - I had forgotten he was in this game until just now.

Vernon - not being helpful

Chris - fixated on Christian, as per usual

That's not everyone, but just what my thoughts have been so far.

Sabataged @ 6/4/2016 14:20

Ari @ 6/4/2016 2:58 Would like top 3 suspects (apart from list and cult) from the following people: 5. Sabataged - Brian Virgil 12. thisisbad - Deacon 14. Chris - Rex Goodman 18. Patrick - Vault Tec Rep 19. ZillaTheThrilla - Scribe Haylen 20. Zero - Doc Amari 21. Vernon - Shaun Still reading and about 50 posts behind so something could change but as of this post above I would say 1. Eben 2. Drr 3. Jay I don't think we can ignore the list provided by Canuck. I also don't think we should just keep letting Cult survive. Jay and Drr for that matter could very well be lying. Jay has caused mass confusion in this game and is not helping anything. The longer you let the confusion stick around the harder it is for town to focus on scum hunting

I said apart from people on the list and cult.

How is Lamps' role at all beneficial to town? Pull your collective heads out of your asses.

Am I missing something or couldnt Lamps have been redirected or bussed away from Eben? Why MUST he be lying?

Lamps could also have been redirected / bussed to scum when Brian tried to recruit him. Resulting in his death.

Seems a bit coincidental though that Lamps is involved in both scenarios.

Eben Etzebeth @ 6/4/2016 8:50

Hermsworth @ 6/4/2016 7:45 I'd lynch Eben and Rose over Lamps at this point, just saying. I'm suspicious of you, and everyone lamps got "results" on.

Didn't Lamps get results on you? :P So you're suspicious of yourself as well, then?

Top 3 Suspects outside of the the Zook train/Cult in no particular order:

Patrick
Wikey
Zero

maybe Sab, after his reponse to Ari's request to list top 3 suspects.

Curtis has seemed to jump from lynch to lynch with every new bit of information...

But it would make sense to lynch one of Eben/Lamps, because it should give us some information about the other.

These were my Day 3 notes on Eben (since Eben's been asking for reasons from people):

Day 3
Eben posts thoughts on Primate being a dick, not suprised by the Town flip. Said we should look at the people crucifying Primate after the daykill, names Curtis as one that sticks out. Says Jay is always scum. Asks questions about the Boc/Z thing, but doesn't really give an opinion on it, but later votes to lynch Z because of the self-vote. Says he can get on board with Jay being godfather as well, and later asks for a list of all the claims people have made so far.

In summary: Posts no original thoughts, names Curtis as someone who sticks out for "crucifying" Primate, votes Zook (a Townie) but says he could get on board with Jay being godfather (Third Party), and then wants a list of the outed role claims.

Christian @ 6/4/2016 8:18

Eben Etzebeth @ 6/4/2016 8:50 Hermsworth @ 6/4/2016 7:45 I'd lynch Eben and Rose over Lamps at this point, just saying. I'm suspicious of you, and everyone lamps got "results" on. Didn't Lamps get results on you? :P So you're suspicious of yourself as well, then?

I'm not sure what to think - because Lamps hasn't appeared to be scummy in my eyes, but I know that his info on me is incorrect. Potentially he got bussed as Ari pointed out.

Christian @ 6/4/2016 8:32

maybe Sab, after his reponse to Ari's request to list top 3 suspects. Curtis has seemed to jump from lynch to lynch with every new bit of information... But it would make sense to lynch one of Eben/Lamps, because it should give us some information about the other. These were my Day 3 notes on Eben (since Eben's been asking for reasons from people): Day 3 Eben posts thoughts on Primate being a dick, not suprised by the Town flip. Said we should look at the people crucifying Primate after the daykill, names Curtis as one that sticks out. Says Jay is always scum. Asks questions about the Boc/Z thing, but doesn't really give an opinion on it, but later votes to lynch Z because of the self-vote. Says he can get on board with Jay being godfather as well, and later asks for a list of all the claims people have made so far. In summary: Posts no original thoughts, names Curtis as someone who sticks out for "crucifying" Primate, votes Zook (a Townie) but says he could get on board with Jay being godfather (Third Party), and then wants a list of the outed role claims.

Sounds like VT who wasn't around much the first three days. You did a quality summary!

Thanks, or it's a Mafia member who jumps at the chance to throw shade on people he knows are not on his team when opportunities present themselves. ie. Jay surviving an attack, Zook's self-lynch.

But that could also sound like Curtis too...

Why didn't you pursue Curtis as your top suspect on that day, if he stuck out to you and you felt it was a good idea to look at the people crucifying Primate for the daykill?

The fact that there are so many vanillas, should give credibility to Lamps's role.

Dead VT: Ryan Grant, Buffy, Primate, Angi

Then there's me and maybe Eben (if he's telling the truth).

Christian @ 6/4/2016 8:36

Thanks, or it's a Mafia member who jumps at the chance to throw shade on people he knows are not on his team when opportunities present themselves. ie. Jay surviving an attack, Zook's self-lynch. But that could also sound like Curtis too... Why didn't you pursue Curtis as your top suspect on that day, if he stuck out to you and you felt it was a good idea to look at the people crucifying Primate for the daykill?

Because Zook was playing exactly like scum usually do when they are caught.. Self voting and giving up. It seemed like a stronger read at the time.

Yesterday I said Redster and Curtis were my top reads.

And today Curtis has still been one of my top reads. I haven't gotten away from Curtis at all.

Hermsworth @ 6/4/2016 9:36

The fact that there are so many vanillas, should give credibility to Lamps's role. Dead VT: Ryan Grant, Buffy, Primate, Angi Then there's me and maybe Eben (if he's telling the truth).

Yeah, I don't doubt Lamps' role at all. And it could be a useful tool for the Mafia, so the only thing I question is his alignment.

Christian you scum?