Vic @ 20/1/2016 16:44

I also still think Jay is the best call today. None of his posts helped his case imo

I wasn't aware that one or two votes meant I needed to make a case.

AND one last post to you Timmah because I need to start being productive today. In your timeline post you say

- Vic posts he'd be okay with Miko or Wikey
- Vic then lynches Wikey (avoiding his scum buddy?)

But then you say

- Miko unlynches Wikey and moves back to Titan (this is a bit odd to me - I think Wikey was up there with 5-6 lynch votes at that time - could be covering for a scum buddy?)

Which is it? It's impossible that I avoided my scum buddy by voting Wikey and not Miko AND that Miko covered for his scum buddy by unlynching Wikey. Because for my vote you're acting as if Wikey isn't scum and then in Miko's you're acting as if he could be

Jayadamo @ 20/1/2016 11:50

Vic @ 20/1/2016 16:44 I also still think Jay is the best call today. None of his posts helped his case imo I wasn't aware that one or two votes meant I needed to make a case.

The case being that some people think you would be a good lynch target today

Miko wasn't lynched for being inactive D2.

Putting heat on Dadd on D3 after the way D2 ended wasn't exactly a novel idea.

I'm just saying.

Timmah @ 20/1/2016 11:53

Miko wasn't lynched for being inactive D2. Putting heat on Dadd on D3 after the way D2 ended wasn't exactly a novel idea. I'm just saying.

At the time I voted people were voting Miko because he wasn't around much, same with Wikey

Vic @ 20/1/2016 11:52

AND one last post to you Timmah because I need to start being productive today. In your timeline post you say - Vic posts he'd be okay with Miko or Wikey - Vic then lynches Wikey (avoiding his scum buddy?) But then you say - Miko unlynches Wikey and moves back to Titan (this is a bit odd to me - I think Wikey was up there with 5-6 lynch votes at that time - could be covering for a scum buddy?) Which is it? It's impossible that I avoided my scum buddy by voting Wikey and not Miko AND that Miko covered for his scum buddy by unlynching Wikey. Because for my vote you're acting as if Wikey isn't scum and then in Miko's you're acting as if he could be

You are aware that I listed both you AND wikey in my potential scum list right? And, also that I have not voted you, nor have I made any concrete statements like you are now trying to attribute to me, right?

All I know is I woke up to about five posts about me potentially being scum, most coming from you, so I wanted to address it to you. That's all

this timmah/vic thing seems like villagers getting offended to me

Vic @ 20/1/2016 16:53

Jayadamo @ 20/1/2016 11:50 Vic @ 20/1/2016 16:44 I also still think Jay is the best call today. None of his posts helped his case imo I wasn't aware that one or two votes meant I needed to make a case. The case being that some people think you would be a good lynch target today

Not enough people on it. I will say this though. I am going to bed in 5 hours. If people plan to blitz lynch me please do it within that time so that I can defend myself properly. I am not a good lynch candidate.

Yeah I'm gonna stop now. I've said what I needed to say. I'll be back in a little

Interesting attempt at spinning my factual catalog of the events at the end of D2 and my stream of consciousness thoughts that I added to some of those factual events into something it's not, Vic. Carry on.

Ari @ 20/1/2016 8:26

Timmah @ 20/1/2016 17:19 Ari @ 20/1/2016 9:43 Timmah @ 20/1/2016 16:40 Ari @ 20/1/2016 9:19 Scum tend to have opinions to lynch Town. Ive stated the reasons why I think the targets you picked today are town. So you havnt had 10 minutes over the past week to sit down and write who you suspect / dont suspect? Very busy man! We would learn some info about the people who want to lynch you and those who dont. Hold on, so based on your first sentence here, you basically are saying that your entire reason for thinking that I'm scum is because I am going after JC? Because on D2, I definitely went after Miko, who we know was not town. Continue reading. Mostly because you have been very much tunneling on JC. Maybe tell us who else you suspect and wouldnt mind lynching? I am not going to deny that I'm tunneling, but I am also not going to abandon my top scum read. Here is who I suspect right now: JC - obvs. Vic - from D2, even more if JC is scum, and he seems to be "trying hard" without getting pinned in a corner; but, really really from D2 after analyzing that Badger - from D2, though I don't recall a lot of the rest of his game Wikey - from D2, and general lurking Curtis - especially if JC is scum, but also because Dadd's final list of scum reads was : Curtis, im317, FC, Bryce - at least one of those is mafia (FC flipped town and Bryce has soft claimed, leaving only 2 candidates imo) im317 - see reasoning above from Dadd's "scum list" brian - general lurking Jay - lurking mostly until he was called out today Im317 looks pretty solid after looking back on day 2. Lynched Miko on a very crucial moment. I would have expected him to try and save him if they where scum buddies. Curtis maybe, but I am surprisingly getting a town read from him at the moment but he is definitively on the lower end of my towny list.

Really? I disagree completely.

Wikey and Curtis are smart Mafia players and would 100% lynch Miko who was already a sinking ship rather than try and save that worthless sack of zombie flesh. Sorry but it's true.

Every time there is a conflict between you and someone, you're always right. It's annoying. You and JC, you and Curtis, you and Ari, you and me. Maybe it's you!

Jk I don't think you're scum really but yeah

Thanks Vern! <3

These are my reads right now, I am definitely taking many things that have been discussed today into consideration.

Most Likely Town: Strongest Pro-Town Reads

- Bryce: I think he's the most confirmed town player we got at this point, hinting he has info on various players and willing to claim if necessary.
- Angi: I believe she's being honest about her role.
- Vernon: I'm still wondering if scum tried to jump on trying to elect him or not, the only two people alive who tried to push for Vern that I remember were JC and Ahoda. Seems pretty evident that scum stole his vote tho, so I don't think he's part of the same faction as Dadd and Miko at least. Think this makes him more cleared than the scan itself, since scans can be misinterpreted based on roles.
- im317: His vote on Miko puts him in a good light, leaning town.

Middle Ground: things point to them being Town, but they're in no way cleared

- Herm: I think putting myself here makes sense. I know I am town, but I get why many others are suspicious of me. Probably gonna be a hot topic for the days to follow.
- Ari: Trying to figure stuff out from the D2 train, something I think makes a lot of sense looking into. Making some really good points overall. Not confirmed though.
- Timmah: Seems to be trying to figure stuff out as well. He has been focusing much of his attention on JC, hard to say if there's something there or not since I don't know if JC taking out Nofo is out of character lol.
- Wikey: Kinda hard to tell based on his posts, the most I can learn from Wikey right now is what we got from the D2 lynch train. Most likely town if scum were on his train, he was lynched for his inactivity whereas MIko was lynched for being scummy and lurking.
- Curtis: I think some of the stuff he says makes sense, especially early on. He tries to figure stuff out. If Curtis was scum, would he try to get people to believe Miko's and Dadd's fake claims or distance himself? Whichever option makes most sense, probably means he's that alignment. Curtis usually plays smart, so if he's town we should probably listen to him more. Still 50/50 on him though, because I can never tell when he's scum.
- JC: If Timmah's onto something then I'd consider him as scum, but leaning town for now because he's acting like he usually does when he's town. There's not really anything that clears him, though. What would scum-JC do? Would he try to act the same way as he does when he's town in order to fend off suspicion?

Possibly Scum:

- Vic: His votes on Canuck and Wikey on D2 make me think he could potentially be scum. He seems to try to figure stuff out though, would like to hear more from him.
- Brian: Hasn't been the most active, could be scum laying low, I may be lynching him now but since Bryce seems to have info on him I'm willing to give this lynch a pause if the info clears him.
- Ahoda: I don't think he has done much since I claimed Miller but lynched me. I would think of him as a viable candidate for scum actually, his vote on Wikey instead of Miko on D2 are other options to consider.
- Badger: I'm almost 50/50 on Badger, seems to say stuff that I agree with, but this is something scum would do if they knew I was town. Think we need to hear more from Badger tbh. Seems to think Bryce is suspicious?
- Jayadamo: Has been more or less inactive, has a good excuse but there's still nothing that clears him imo.