Igor @ 22/2/2018 14:18

Ben @ 22/2/2018 14:16 Ahoda and Igor should get a room. He's really desperate to try to suck me off I keep telling him no but he won't go away This isn't right #metoo

I'll suck some sense into you!

Igor @ 22/2/2018 15:01

Mads @ 22/2/2018 13:58 Igor @ 22/2/2018 14:52 Mads @ 22/2/2018 13:51 I also don't think Igor realizes there's a difference between "leftists" and "liberals." Leftists are complete and utter garbage. But liberals are all pretty much the same on taking away gunz This is false. I see a lot of division between people who want all-out bans, bans on specific guns, or just better legislation on background checks and methods of purchase. There's also a whole other debate over researching gun violence from a public health perspective. Nydia Velázquez's bill, H.R.3987 - Protecting Americans from Gun Violence Act of 2017, is one to look into. It would place a fee on background checks and the revenue from those fees would fund gun violence research at the CDC. It's probably not a perfect bill, but I agree with the general premise. Most of the cosponsors are from the Progressive Caucus, though, so I doubt it will get any movement in this Congress. I don't quite think that's the case. Every facebook post I've seen is more on the line of "why do we need guns", "gunz r bad mkay", etc. Hell even on here it seems to be the general tone. I don't think any person on any part of the spectrum is against research (at least a large majority should be for it). It's shitty that there are barriers in place that prevent that.

You're basing your entire opinion of a larger group of people off of some idiots on your facebook feed? Great sample.

Mads @ 22/2/2018 13:33

Igor @ 22/2/2018 15:01 Mads @ 22/2/2018 13:58 Igor @ 22/2/2018 14:52 Mads @ 22/2/2018 13:51 I also don't think Igor realizes there's a difference between "leftists" and "liberals." Leftists are complete and utter garbage. But liberals are all pretty much the same on taking away gunz This is false. I see a lot of division between people who want all-out bans, bans on specific guns, or just better legislation on background checks and methods of purchase. There's also a whole other debate over researching gun violence from a public health perspective. Nydia Velázquez's bill, H.R.3987 - Protecting Americans from Gun Violence Act of 2017, is one to look into. It would place a fee on background checks and the revenue from those fees would fund gun violence research at the CDC. It's probably not a perfect bill, but I agree with the general premise. Most of the cosponsors are from the Progressive Caucus, though, so I doubt it will get any movement in this Congress. I don't quite think that's the case. Every facebook post I've seen is more on the line of "why do we need guns", "gunz r bad mkay", etc. Hell even on here it seems to be the general tone. I don't think any person on any part of the spectrum is against research (at least a large majority should be for it). It's shitty that there are barriers in place that prevent that. You're basing your entire opinion of a larger group of people off of some idiots on your facebook feed? Great sample.

Don't forget. He chose that select group of idiots.

Mads @ 22/2/2018 14:33

Igor @ 22/2/2018 15:01 Mads @ 22/2/2018 13:58 Igor @ 22/2/2018 14:52 Mads @ 22/2/2018 13:51 I also don't think Igor realizes there's a difference between "leftists" and "liberals." Leftists are complete and utter garbage. But liberals are all pretty much the same on taking away gunz This is false. I see a lot of division between people who want all-out bans, bans on specific guns, or just better legislation on background checks and methods of purchase. There's also a whole other debate over researching gun violence from a public health perspective. Nydia Velázquez's bill, H.R.3987 - Protecting Americans from Gun Violence Act of 2017, is one to look into. It would place a fee on background checks and the revenue from those fees would fund gun violence research at the CDC. It's probably not a perfect bill, but I agree with the general premise. Most of the cosponsors are from the Progressive Caucus, though, so I doubt it will get any movement in this Congress. I don't quite think that's the case. Every facebook post I've seen is more on the line of "why do we need guns", "gunz r bad mkay", etc. Hell even on here it seems to be the general tone. I don't think any person on any part of the spectrum is against research (at least a large majority should be for it). It's shitty that there are barriers in place that prevent that. You're basing your entire opinion of a larger group of people off of some idiots on your facebook feed? Great sample.

Nah, some idiots on FE. And literally on every chat/forum/social media I've been on.

I like the idea of arming schools with bodyguards/grown ups with military training/background. I don't know how far down the rabbit hole your country's gone, but seeing as any gun legislation talk leads nowhere, how about giving the other end of extreme a try? Seems like doing nothing is making things worse. Thoughts?

I personally feel like having military people guard schools is a bit on the idiotic end, but you need to do something

I'M PISSED, BECAUSE MY DAUGHTER'S DEAD. I DON'T SEE HER NO MORE. I SEE HER ON CEMETERY THATS WHERE I SEE HER.
damn.....

and trump? what does he do about it? he just sits there, and then he has the audacity to suggest that teachers carry gunz. crazy, just crazy...

Igor @ 22/2/2018 14:36

Mads @ 22/2/2018 14:33 Igor @ 22/2/2018 15:01 Mads @ 22/2/2018 13:58 Igor @ 22/2/2018 14:52 Mads @ 22/2/2018 13:51 I also don't think Igor realizes there's a difference between "leftists" and "liberals." Leftists are complete and utter garbage. But liberals are all pretty much the same on taking away gunz This is false. I see a lot of division between people who want all-out bans, bans on specific guns, or just better legislation on background checks and methods of purchase. There's also a whole other debate over researching gun violence from a public health perspective. Nydia Velázquez's bill, H.R.3987 - Protecting Americans from Gun Violence Act of 2017, is one to look into. It would place a fee on background checks and the revenue from those fees would fund gun violence research at the CDC. It's probably not a perfect bill, but I agree with the general premise. Most of the cosponsors are from the Progressive Caucus, though, so I doubt it will get any movement in this Congress. I don't quite think that's the case. Every facebook post I've seen is more on the line of "why do we need guns", "gunz r bad mkay", etc. Hell even on here it seems to be the general tone. I don't think any person on any part of the spectrum is against research (at least a large majority should be for it). It's shitty that there are barriers in place that prevent that. You're basing your entire opinion of a larger group of people off of some idiots on your facebook feed? Great sample. Nah, some idiots on FE. And literally on every chat/forum/social media I've been on.

The common denominator in this is you btw


:zebra:

Herm @ 22/2/2018 14:42

I like the idea of arming schools with bodyguards/grown ups with military training/background. I don't know how far down the rabbit hole your country's gone, but seeing as any gun legislation talk leads nowhere, how about giving the other end of extreme a try? Seems like doing nothing is making things worse. Thoughts?

Sounds like the premise behind the "Punisher" ...

Timmah @ 22/2/2018 10:08

vladykins @ 22/2/2018 10:00 Primate @ 22/2/2018 9:52 vladykins @ 22/2/2018 7:27 Primate @ 22/2/2018 8:18 vladykins @ 22/2/2018 7:15 Primate @ 22/2/2018 8:06 vladykins @ 22/2/2018 6:17 Sadly, this isn't faked: https://twitter.com/AP_Politics/status/966444573374472197 It's also not uncommon in past presidents. Let's not pretend Trump invented being a manipulative, insincere shitbag. Actually, *this* level is pretty extreme. It's one thing to be coached beforehand, but you really need notes to remind you to say "We hear you." Really? I'm not an Obama fan, but he went to Sandy Hook and quietly spent hours talking with the parents and survivors, no press, etc. He didn't have talking points he needed to carry with him to be a basic human being listening to people. He was a better public speaker and better at recall. I guarantee you he was coached and prepped beforehand. The rest is just your bias. I actually don't think so in this case; Obama was a career activist instead of being a career politician, but even if you want to pretend it is all faked, Obama spent hours in Sandy Hook, while Trump spent minutes in the hospital on his way down to golfing in Mar-e-lago. I'm sorry but while I'm not a fan of the DNC, pretending that both sides are equally terrible is really just a cop out. Pretending that both sides aren't the problem instead of the solution is the cop-out. No, pretending that government is naturally terrible and we should live in a libertarian paradise is a cop-out, considering how such places tend to fair (from the scam that was Galt's Gulch in Chile to the wonderful lawlessness of Somalia). That's quite a broad, sweeping, and over-reaching conclusion to draw from what he has said.

Have you met Vlady?

Primate @ 22/2/2018 5:13

The government isn't going to stop mass shootings. It requires willful ignorance and irresponsibility to think they could, let alone see that as a valid preventative. This shit won't stop until we all take collective responsibility and start behaving differently. Not as a governed collective, but on a personal, individual level.

There are two main reasons for the school shootings, the news covering the shooter like some kind of a murdering martyr, and bullying.

The news has to choose between less kids dying and profits, corporate America chooses profits.
IMO it could be considered incitement to violence so the government can do something about it, or make new laws.

I'm pretty sure the government can do something about bullying in public schools, like teacher training, more counseling, whatever.

Another factor could be the us vs them narrative politicians keep pushing, it makes people think that other Americans are an 'enemy' and you tend to want to kill your enemies.

And of course there's the mental health and how easy it is to get guns.


Yeah, they totally can't to anything to stop mass shootings.

Herm @ 22/2/2018 13:42

I like the idea of arming schools with bodyguards/grown ups with military training/background. I don't know how far down the rabbit hole your country's gone, but seeing as any gun legislation talk leads nowhere, how about giving the other end of extreme a try? Seems like doing nothing is making things worse. Thoughts?

Putting more guns into the schools won't help. It just adds more bullets to the fray when shit gets crazy. Plus, most school bodyguards are there for a reason: either they need to be employed by the district to coach a sport, or they weren't good enough (or retired due to old age from) for the police force.

Spin @ 22/2/2018 15:07

Herm @ 22/2/2018 13:42 I like the idea of arming schools with bodyguards/grown ups with military training/background. I don't know how far down the rabbit hole your country's gone, but seeing as any gun legislation talk leads nowhere, how about giving the other end of extreme a try? Seems like doing nothing is making things worse. Thoughts? Putting more guns into the schools won't help. It just adds more bullets to the fray when shit gets crazy. Plus, most school bodyguards are there for a reason: either they need to be employed by the district to coach a sport, or they weren't good enough (or retired due to old age from) for the police force.

With what they pay teachers, I shudder to think of who they would employ as bodyguards ...

Dadd @ 22/2/2018 15:09

Spin @ 22/2/2018 15:07 Herm @ 22/2/2018 13:42 I like the idea of arming schools with bodyguards/grown ups with military training/background. I don't know how far down the rabbit hole your country's gone, but seeing as any gun legislation talk leads nowhere, how about giving the other end of extreme a try? Seems like doing nothing is making things worse. Thoughts? Putting more guns into the schools won't help. It just adds more bullets to the fray when shit gets crazy. Plus, most school bodyguards are there for a reason: either they need to be employed by the district to coach a sport, or they weren't good enough (or retired due to old age from) for the police force. With what they pay teachers, I shudder to think of who they would employ as bodyguards ...

Isn't there an issue involving unemployed military vets? Or did I just make that up? I might have made it up, but if not we could solve two problems in one swoop!

Local Walmart employs a Sheriff's deputy for security, we're in the checkout line and look over at him ... he's sitting in a chair, ear buds in, watching a video on his phone. I felt much safer.