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Mercator @ 28/8/2016 19:12

im317 @ 28/8/2016 16:07 Mercator @ 28/8/2016 19:05 -dr @ 28/8/2016 15:57 Right now I feel pretty good about: Brian Wikey Merc Curtis Im317 Odd In that general order At least 1 of them is scum though. says who? there is a max of 5 scum left, but there could very well only be 4. My expert math skills and FE mafia background. 5/23 is quite low for mafia.

actually 5 would make more sense then 6 imo. yeah there are a lot of attackers out there, but with HP as opposed to just dying its not the same as if there were more killing roles in a traditional game. plus there has been and was bound to be a good amount of friendly fire.

Dylan I will get you.

There's less than 2 hours left, and I find im317 wanting the doublevoter off Helios just before the end to be quite scummy, since scum would want to bamboozle us at the end.

Which they actually could right now if they have 5 votes, but don't worry there are probably only 4 scum left.

Mercator @ 28/8/2016 19:27

There's less than 2 hours left, and I find im317 wanting the doublevoter off Helios just before the end to be quite scummy, since scum would want to bamboozle us at the end.

whatever. scum has a decent idea how much more damage they need to deal to me. if they kill me then so be it, but i want to be in a position to actually do something if they don't.

##lynch Helios

1 Members Posting: Helios Garabandia

This suspense

I trust the people lynching Helios far more than the ones not around or pushing in another direction

-dr @ 28/8/2016 18:14

Like I said earlier, claiming isn't enough. Anyone can claim a character. Most abilities can probably be claimed too without any indication of alignment. What have you DONE with what you are? WHY? All the whining about being the person everyone is looking at feels extremely forced! Especially when a lot of people are suspiciously hanging back and not booting or chiming in, unlike what they did to all our other scapegoats and useful idiots. Helios, if you aren't scum, FIND SOMEONE WHO IS. It shouldn't be hard if half the cast really is scum at this point! You should have BEEN finding the scum. That's the entire point. But you haven't been. You're just whining to try to get votes off of you. ##lynch Helios Start talking if you want to change my mind. But you're going to have to make it good.

There's an irony here today in the fact that the argument against me has been that I'm supposedly more interested in how people are playing than their alignment when most of the arguments against me involve me not playing the way others want me to play. It's funny, because you have been my #1 Town read this entire game. This hypocrisy of yours that's going on right now is really making me think.

Also, I'm not whining. I'm just pointing out the fact that if I get lynched, THIS GAME ENDS. In fact, I am not sure why the Mafia hasn't already lynched me and ended this! Is our Mafia that damn stupid that they wouldn't have done basic math and realize that killing me right now ends the game in their victory? Makes me wonder if my train isn't already full of Mafia and they need a Townie to come along and finish the job!

I wanted to throw my role out there because I was in a damn rush. Now that I can take a moment to breathe, I will go ahead and discuss my role.
-I get to build a turret. If I am attacked, the turret takes the hit for me and dishes out some damage to who attacked me. I can only build a turret every three days, but only one turret can exist at any one time.
-I can also boost my turret with extra HP
-I can create an armor pack with the debris from an attack against me.
-My ult supercharges my turret for the night, and I have to trigger it during the day.

I currently do not have enough ult points to trigger my ult.

Oddilus @ 28/8/2016 18:14

So, the ult that happened today was me, I'm Tracer. I originally planned to hit Wikey with it, but Rose kind of cleared some of my suspicions with him earlier with Boc's mistakes, etc. Dadd was next in line for me, so that's why I targeted him. My mistake clearly, but I didn't like how much he was trying to control the game from the background. My ult hits the last person on the victim's lynch train, and I thought I used it when he had no train so there would be no other collateral. Apparently I missed tib's lynch, so that's why it hit you too. As for my thoughts for the current status, with Dadd's flip and Wikey's claim, I'm re-evaluating my take on Helios. Even now, with how desperate we are, it seems like he's content to sit back and point that out and point out how stupid of a target he is to lynch without actually contributing any scumhunting himself. So, that said: ##lynch Helios

Someone who knows Overwatch: Does Tracer fit with doublevoting and whatever the hell that ult was?

itsbrianyay @ 28/8/2016 18:25

and now the guy i want to lynch and i've been begging you to do has too many votes for me to add to god you guys are the WORST AND AND someone tried to kill me last night

If you think I'm Scum, you would have voted me. There's no such thing as "too many votes" if you're 100% sure that your target is Scum.

itsbrianyay @ 28/8/2016 18:32

i dunno what to do. mccree pretty much has to be scum or he would've admitted it by now which pretty much clears rose and wikey

I seem to have missed where Rose claimed a character and was cleared. Wikey...he HAS claimed a character, and the most recent events has him looking better.

-dr @ 28/8/2016 18:39

Lol Timmah. I could go for him too. Where'd Helios's town read on him come from earlier in the game anyway

I admit, my town read on him earlier in the game came from the part in which he wasn't saying and doing some of the ridiculous shit that others were doing. He seemed like he was actively trying to find scum. Perhaps I am wrong, so I will go back and take a look.

Curtis @ 28/8/2016 18:42

Curtis @ 28/8/2016 18:35 TIB can you post your tiered rankings of trust? I'm vry interested in seeing that Because this was still the fishiest thing to me at the end of yesterday: Spoiler + Curtis @ 26/8/2016 20:39 thisisbad @ 26/8/2016 20:21 Curtis @ 26/8/2016 18:18 thisisbad @ 26/8/2016 20:13 I honestly wish I could lynch both and be done with it. I don't trust either one of them. thisisbad @ 26/8/2016 20:14 itsbrianyay @ 26/8/2016 18:01 Wikey and drake are both bad lynches. WAKE UP SHEEPLE sadly enough, i kinda agree with this wat I don't get a great feeling from lynching either one of them. "I honestly wish I could lynch both and be done with it. I don't trust either one of them. But for now, and since i will be on until lynch, i will" I am getting MIXED signals here!! And I'm PRETTY surprised no one else has touched upon this at all. This along with "I guess my choices today are either Wikey or Drake" which is horribly silly and scummy and I hate it. Now that I'm p. sure Wikey is Town, you taking this stance on Wikey/Drake trains is extremely fishy to me I'm mostly surprised Helios hasn't been all over you for this tbh. Conveniently Helios was the third highest train at the time while you were pushing this focus on Wikey/Drake. Merc was also on that level iirc WOULD YOU LOOK AT THAT MY TOP THREE SUSPECTS!

Helios hasn't been all over this because Helios somehow fucking missed this.
(before someone says it, yes I'm aware it makes me look bad for missing something like that.)

im317 @ 28/8/2016 18:51

you know, if Odd already used his Ult then we could make much better use of this vote by having 2 of us swap with his votes so we get Ult points we have a chance of using, since its probably impossible for the game to last long enough for him to use his Ult twice.

...what? Are you kidding me? We are at LyLo and you're still worried about fucking Ult points? The wrong person dies on this lynch, and there's no need to worry about Ult points because the Mafia wins. I assume this means your scum ass Ult must be able to lay waste to the Town.

To all: It's this kind of shit right here that has had 317 be my #1 suspect this entire game. I get that he leans Town to you guys, but I just can't understand why!

Mercator @ 28/8/2016 18:56

There's probably 5 scum left and 11 players. It requires 6 for plurality so if Oddilus was scum mafia would have won with that daykill, since they'd have majority vote right? And if Helios wasn't scum Mafia would have hammered him already for the win 100%, unless they're all a bunch of idiots. So we need to kill Helios and protect Odd tonight to even have a chance.

I agree with the first part. That's why I've been saying it's LyLo.
For the second part...that's interesting. Normally, the threshold for Mafia winning is about the number of Mafioso, but I'm not sure how a doublevoter fits into that equation.
For the third part, I have no fucking idea why this day isn't over. Unless there is nothing but Mafia on my train already, I fully expect that. at any moment, Mafia to open their eyes, do some damn math, and end this.

I waited an hour for this post?

itsbrianyay @ 28/8/2016 18:32

i dunno what to do. mccree pretty much has to be scum or he would've admitted it by now which pretty much clears rose and wikey

I seem to have missed where Rose claimed a character and was cleared. Wikey...he HAS claimed a character, and the most recent events has him looking better.

-dr @ 28/8/2016 18:29

me_irl +

Mercator @ 28/8/2016 19:13

And I think with almost everyone being able to attack, mafia will be upper limit. Since it's usually what's done when there are a lot of killing roles for balance.

I agree with this. I've been operating under the principle of 6/23. Originally, I had thought 7/23, but the game would've been over at the beginning of today if it was 7/23, so it must be 6/23.

-dr @ 28/8/2016 19:15

It's driver the low end of the spectrum but it's possible. Plus with the way ults and abilities work, Box may have erred on the side of less. I'm willing to focus on the people I don't feel good about for now and then sort out out later

Wikey @ 28/8/2016 19:16

Tonight is gonna be shitty, but if we can lynch right we might stand a chance. Helios, who is your character?

If you guys are right, and we somehow started 5/23, then it would be 4/11 right now. That would mean Town could afford a mislynch, depending on how the night actions go.
If I am right, and we started 6/23, then this game ends upon my Lynch. There is no tonight, and there is no "sort out the rest later".

Mercator @ 28/8/2016 19:27

There's less than 2 hours left, and I find im317 wanting the doublevoter off Helios just before the end to be quite scummy, since scum would want to bamboozle us at the end.

The way I read it, 317 wants Odd to go vote for someone else, then two people can vote for me, so those two people can get the ult points. Which makes no sense whatsoever. This ult point obsession is getting insane.

Mercator @ 28/8/2016 19:28

Which they actually could right now if they have 5 votes, but don't worry there are probably only 4 scum left.

The sole reason I even give this "only 4 scum left" theory any consideration is the fact that I'm still alive. I would figure that they would go ahead and run me through the ground so they could win. So, there are three reasons I can think of why they have not:
1) There are really only 4 Mafia left
2) The Mafia are inactive
3) The Mafia are already on my lynch, and they're trying to convince Townies to join

-dr @ 28/8/2016 20:06

itsbrianyay @ 28/8/2016 18:32 i dunno what to do. mccree pretty much has to be scum or he would've admitted it by now which pretty much clears rose and wikey I seem to have missed where Rose claimed a character and was cleared. Wikey...he HAS claimed a character, and the most recent events has him looking better. -dr @ 28/8/2016 18:29 me_irl +

Oh, that was a claim? I didn't know.

Who is that?

Winston. He is a scientist and adventurer.

Helios Garabandia @ 28/8/2016 17:07

Mercator @ 28/8/2016 19:28 Which they actually could right now if they have 5 votes, but don't worry there are probably only 4 scum left. The sole reason I even give this "only 4 scum left" theory any consideration is the fact that I'm still alive. I would figure that they would go ahead and run me through the ground so they could win. So, there are three reasons I can think of why they have not: 1) There are really only 4 Mafia left 2) The Mafia are inactive 3) The Mafia are already on my lynch, and they're trying to convince Townies to join

4) You are Mafia

Current Tally

Helios (5/6) - Wikey, Merc, dr, Oddilus, im317
Wikey (1/6) - Vlady
Curtis (0/6) - Dadd
im317 (0/6) - Merc
Oddilus (0/6) - Wikey

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